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Could this happen?

Marion
Thomas/Bell
1st round

For

Kevin Garnett?

I really feel like Suns need more of a defensive player. What do you think?

What do you think?

Here is some articles I found

http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/0...hawn-marion-the-perfect-scenario-for-the-wol/
http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05/15/trade-amare-stoudemire-for-kg-huh/

Unrelated but a good read http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/0...tim-duncan-a-comparison-of-two-of-the-league/

I would do it.....the Suns need a dominant big man. I think KG would blossom playing for a team that wins more than it losses. KG is still a pretty young guy, but he has played a lot of games.
 
dont think he would fit very well. unless they decide to abandon that style(which they should) then marion alone is probably a better fit then garnett.
 
You might be right but their style of play isnt getting them Rings.
 
If they were to abandon their style, then that would mean abandoning their head coach, and their MVP point guard...I can assure you their style isnt going anywhere...It could be argued that without Tim Duncan, and with a healthy Amare last year, they would be going for their 3rd straight title this year...

I called them trading Marion this offseason if they didnt atleast make it to the finals, at the end of last season...I love him, and hate to see him go, but he has had a habit of sliding off in the playoffs..

That said, i dont see them trading for Garnett since he wouldnt be a great fit...It could be something special if they did pull it off though...A more likely scenario I see is trying to go up in the draft to get Oden, or more likely Durant...Kevin Durant is a player that could be just what we need, a great wing player that can create for himself, and can rebound and play D...

Then again Nash only has about 3 years left, so they may just add a veteran, who knows...
 
I thought Bill Simmons idea made more sense for the T-Wolves: essentially Stoudemire and salary cap ballast Marcus Banks for Garnett, and a swap of Atlanta's pick for Minnesota's pick.

I'm sure the Suns would rather give up Marion than Stoudemire, but I don't think the T-Wolves would do a deal for Marion. We know it's going to take a lot for them to give up KG. Marion is essentially the ultimate complementary player. He could be the new Scottie Pippen; the ultimate second banana. There's nothing wrong with that, mind you, Pippen is a sure-fire first ballot Hall of Famer. However, you don't build a team around him, and that's the problem Minnesota would have with that deal. But Stoudemire you can build around.

Now, that said, if the T-Wolves were willing to take a package centered around Marion for KG, and I'm not putting anything past Kevin McHale, one of the five worst GMs in the NBA - Isiah Thomas, Billy King, Billy Knight and Jim Paxson are the others, in case you're curious, the Suns would be out of their minds not to do it.

(And yeah, I said Jim Paxson. if the ping-pong balls in the 2003 lottery bounce differently, he's running a pickup league at the Willoughby Hills YMCA. Seriously, after picking LeBron James, can anyone name his second best move? Was it giving an insane amount of money to Larry Hughes? Or bringing back Eric Snow, who has about 200,000 miles on his odometer? Or the legendary Ira Newble signing? Or burning a lottery pick on Luke Jackson? If the Cavs had a GM with more than a dozen functioning brain cells, LeBron would have a ring by now, instead of preparing for yet another exit at the hands of the Detroit Pistons. Even though I'm a Pistons fan, I think about these things because my best friend is a Cavs fan, and I've got an inexplicable soft spot for the city of Cleveland. And yet, I digress.)

KG can more or less play Duncan to a draw, and the rest of their team is better than the rest of the Spurs. Moreover, at this point, I think he'd sacrifice his left kidney, a lung and 15 years of his life for a ring. There's something to be said for that.

And it's not like KG would cramp the Suns running style; he's one of the most athletic 4s in the league. In fact, if they want their lightning-fast offense to run in fifth gear, you could argue that Stoudemire, not Marion, should be the one to go. KG, Marion, Bell, Nash and Barbosa starting, with Diaw and Joakim Noah (who they could probably still get at Minny's pick) coming off the bench? Forget basketball, that's a team that could run the 4 x 400 relay.

I think there's a pretty good chance that someone will make the T-Wolves an offer they can't refuse for KG this summer (in the good way, not the Michael and Vito Corleone way). And honestly, the Suns should be at the head of that pack; they're one of maybe five teams that have the goods to get it done. The Bulls should be in there, but won't, because we know they don't have the guts to pull it off (see: Pau Gasol, Memphis Grizzly). Maybe the Mavericks will be in there, too. Every so often, the Pistons get mentioned as a possible KG suitor, though I doubt that would happen.
 
KG isn't a run and gunner though. Would Marion be the go-to go in Minnesota if he was traded there?
 
If they were to abandon their style, then that would mean abandoning their head coach, and their MVP point guard...I can assure you their style isnt going anywhere...



i realize you like that style. but it doesnt bother you that a running team hasnt won the championship since magics lakers? that style simply doesnt work in the playoffs. its been proven over, over and over.
 
I would do it.....the Suns need a dominant big man. I think KG would blossom playing for a team that wins more than it losses. KG is still a pretty young guy, but he has played a lot of games.

No, the Suns already have a dominant Big man. What they really need is a back-up for Nash. By game 6, he was completly spent.

Also, no way Phoenix picks up Garnetts Salary hit. Phoenix might do as well as 3 first round picks. I think they package 2 for a solid back up Point Guard and another fill-in big guy.
 
Why would the suns do that. KG is not the right player for the suns they have hybrid Center/PF already in Amare. They need a good defensive guard. Manu and Parker killed them in that series.
 
No, the Suns already have a dominant Big man. What they really need is a back-up for Nash. By game 6, he was completly spent.

Also, no way Phoenix picks up Garnetts Salary hit. Phoenix might do as well as 3 first round picks. I think they package 2 for a solid back up Point Guard and another fill-in big guy.

No. What the Suns have is a big man who's dominant in the low post, doesn't play defense and doesn't have the intensity that they desperately need as a team, and which Garnett brings in spades. Honestly, that offense often seems to run just as well without Stoudemire as it does with him. Remember how they were firing on all cylinders last season when Amare was out? Why wouldn't you upgrade, given the opportunity? The window of opportunity for Phoenix is right now, before Nash falls apart like the Bluesmobile in a couple years.

As for Garnett's salary cap hit, it would be balanced out by the contracts going back. It's not like they'd be taking on $22M in new salary (Garnett's 2007-08 salary. He has a player option for $24M in 2008-09). If the deal was Stoudemire and Kurt Thomas, or Stoudemire, Bell and Banks, or Stoudemire and Diaw, or Marion and Banks, or Marion and Bell, they'd be paying almost exactly the same amount of salary anyway. Source: http://hoopshype.com/salaries/phoenix.htm

Moreover, if they traded Stoudemire in the deal for KG, they'd actually be SAVING money in the long-term, since Amare is paid through 2010-11.
 
i realize you like that style. but it doesnt bother you that a running team hasnt won the championship since magics lakers? that style simply doesnt work in the playoffs. its been proven over, over and over.

Only six teams have won the title since Magic's Lakers: the Pistons, the Heat, the Rockets, the Lakers, the Spurs and the Bulls. So you could say that a lot of different things don't work in the playoffs under that rationale. Personally, I'd argue that the common thread between those five teams is not physical, slow-it-down basketball (Shaq's Lakers don't particularly fit that mold, nor did the Bulls), but shrewd management. The Bulls or Lakers could get out and run if the situation called for it, as could the Rockets and the 99 Spurs (albeit not so much the 2003 and 2005 teams).
 
I think they're going to trade Marion. This trade would make sense for them. They'll still have to shell out tons of salary, but they'll get a better front court, and still have a first round pick (because they have 3). Minnesota wouldn't draw very well without KG, but i still think they'd be a decent team with Marion.
 
Only six teams have won the title since Magic's Lakers: the Pistons, the Heat, the Rockets, the Lakers, the Spurs and the Bulls. So you could say that a lot of different things don't work in the playoffs under that rationale. Personally, I'd argue that the common thread between those five teams is not physical, slow-it-down basketball (Shaq's Lakers don't particularly fit that mold, nor did the Bulls), but shrewd management. The Bulls or Lakers could get out and run if the situation called for it, as could the Rockets and the 99 Spurs (albeit not so much the 2003 and 2005 teams).


yes, they could. but they didnt do it all game. someone already even said that nash was exhausted, thats what happens in the playoffs when you run. that what more physical teams will do to you, and in 7 games over the course of the entire playoffs, you cannot win like that. GS did the same thing the Suns did. Got worn out.
 
If they were to abandon their style, then that would mean abandoning their head coach, and their MVP point guard...I can assure you their style isnt going anywhere...It could be argued that without Tim Duncan, and with a healthy Amare last year, they would be going for their 3rd straight title this year...

I called them trading Marion this offseason if they didnt atleast make it to the finals, at the end of last season...I love him, and hate to see him go, but he has had a habit of sliding off in the playoffs..

That said, i dont see them trading for Garnett since he wouldnt be a great fit...It could be something special if they did pull it off though...A more likely scenario I see is trying to go up in the draft to get Oden, or more likely Durant...Kevin Durant is a player that could be just what we need, a great wing player that can create for himself, and can rebound and play D...

Then again Nash only has about 3 years left, so they may just add a veteran, who knows...

Whats so different between KG and Durant? Other than Durant is younger?

How would he not be a good fit? Unselfish, drops 22-13-5 a night, outstanding defense, and he does rather well vs Duncan. The only reason why Wolves lose to the Spurs is Minny has no supporting cast.

You also forget KG said that Money isnt a issue. He would forfit money to bring in players.
 
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