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**Super Thread** Clowney/Tunsil Trade Rumor (merged too many times)

ChambersWI said:
Miami would prefer not to trade Tunsil and view him as a big part of the rebuild. But hypothetically if the Texans are willing to give up 2 high draft picks and 2 defenders who are 26, and both have pro bowls and all pro selections in their record Miami would be receptive
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What two defenders are you talking about?
 
phin1984! said:
We could trade a draft pick for Williams and draft a replacement
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We drafted a dynamite replacement with the #1 overall pick in Jake Long … then his body started breaking down and he wasn't even good by the end of his rookie contract because of the injuries. He was out of the league far too early. We drafted a replacement RT with Ju'Wuan James, when we wanted Zach Martin ... but James was never fully healthy, never fully good, and didn't last beyond his rookie contract.

We've drafted a LOT of replacements, including the highest drafted center of all time, Mike Pouncey … who also missed a ton of games, rehabbing while being paid amongst the elite OL players and watching us have disappointing OL's year after year. We brought in veteran replacements like Branden Albert, the top available free agent LT, who didn't even finish out his contract, Smiley, Kilgore, and Sitton who just got injured and had to immediately be replaced.

We draft the John Jerry's and Dallas Thomas' and think they're the next great guards … and they always vacillate between mediocre and putrid.

Let's face it, we've tried to replace OL tons of times, and almost always been unsuccessful. Thinking we can replace a LT--the hardest to find piece on the OL--is pure folly. There simply isn't evidence to suggest that we'll be able to do that in the next 5 or so years. It almost guarantees that our young QB plays with a poor blind-side protector if he's right handed.

Some teams may be able to replace losing a LT. I have zero faith that the Miami Dolphins can replace Laremy Tunsil.

As for Trent Williams … I don't see it working in Miami. He reminds me of an aging veteran ripe to start becoming injury prone, and if he comes to Miami, I'm expecting him to soon be out with a season-ending injury … call it feeling snakebitten if you like … but recent history has not be kind to us with adding veterans.
 
I was on board with tanking this year and still am. Are they? Everything they are doing and/or thinking suggests different things. At the beginning of the year, our wonderful owner basically said they were tanking. Cool - we need to bottom out for once. Since then, they've made moves that counter that line of thinking.

What are the most important positions in the league other than QB? LT, CB & pass rusher. We have two - guys we drafted, to boot.

The team made a move to get a young QB to see what he has and if he was part of the future - they gave up a second rounder in order to do this. 1. He's not even starting the full year. 2. By trading Tunsil, you would make a very bad offensive line even worse. How are we supposed to correctly judge Rosen when he's not even a) starting the whole year and b) not given a full chance to succeed? It's the same thing that happened with Tannehill for years and years - oh, let's give him another chance because xyz.

Tunsil is making peanuts this year. Why wouldn't you want to rebuild with a young, top 5 guy at his position (a premiere one) who has the talent to be a future HOFer? Isn't he the perfect guy for a rebuild? Or any team, for that matter?
 
OK so Miami is asking for a king's ransom for Laremy Tunsil. Let me get this straight (RUMORS OBVIOUSLY) Clowney, McKinnley and 2 firsts??? Not going to happen unless we cave and take less. DO NOT CAVE.
 
Huh. McKinnley, Clowney, and two “high picks” (in the 20s).

the extra LB doesn’t make sense to me. Maybe their first round tackle....
 
Benardrick McKinney was the exact kicker I was thinking about. He would be an AWESOME addition to our squad.
 
laxcoach said:
Huh. McKinnley, Clowney, and two “high picks” (in the 20s).

the extra LB doesn’t make sense to me. Maybe their first round tackle....
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Let's say it has been made clear by Miami that they want Clowney but not for Tunsil. If the Texans want Tunsil they are going to make it worth our time
 
hoops said:
I can’t name a player though that was in his prime traded for at a premium position and then dumped for a comp pick a year later.

Like literally no one. This place thinks with its comp pick head way too much
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Its not about the comp pick, If Clowney leaves after 2019. It's more about Miami Not being his preferred trade destination. He's stated he doesn't want to come to Miami. He still hasn't signed his tender, knowing Miami is the likely destination. That's why Clowney to me is an afterthought at the moment. Miami certainly has the cap room moving forward to make a huge offer, that still doesn't guarantee he re-signs with the Dolphins.
 
Phinatic8u said:
I don't even think a 2nd is enough for Miami. (2) 1sts might be the magic potion.
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Oh i didn't say Miami would go for the additional 2nd. I'm saying I think a 1,2 and Clowney is the highest they'd be willing to offer.
 
I hope they get 2 firsts for Tunsil and then turn around and flip Clowney to a team he wants to play for.. If they trade Tunsil they are definitely tanking, why not get additional pick or picks for Clowney? I read where he doesn’t want to play for the Dolphins.
 
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