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Sustainability and the #3 pick

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I feel this is a great problem to have... but thinking about the long term sustainability of a truly successful team. Maybe the 3rd pick is indeed an issue.

Seems the route of a great long term team is a franchise QB where the majority the cap resides and albeit some other very important pieces that are highly paid. If the generational tackle or lb does indeed play to their pre-draft hype, how are we going to manage the cap with them in a few years? Can a max contract at either position be incorporated into the grand plan? Would it be wiser to build your team with 2nd and 3rd round players that fit your scheme and theoretically don't break your payroll? Seems like it was fairly successful for the patriots... is it a decent blueprint to follow? I'm honestly on the fence on this... but definitely leaning towards trading down... there has to be a buyer out there right?
 
coolhand_05 said:
I feel this is a great problem to have... but thinking about the long term sustainability of a truly successful team. Maybe the 3rd pick is indeed an issue.

Seems the route of a great long term team is a franchise QB where the majority the cap resides and albeit some other very important pieces that are highly paid. If the generational tackle or lb does indeed play to their pre-draft hype, how are we going to manage the cap with them in a few years? Can a max contract at either position be incorporated into the grand plan? Would it be wiser to build your team with 2nd and 3rd round players that fit your scheme and theoretically don't break your payroll? Seems like it was fairly successful for the patriots... is it a decent blueprint to follow? I'm honestly on the fence on this... but definitely leaning towards trading down... there has to be a buyer out there right?
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It's wiser to add elite talent wherever and whenever you can.

2nd and 3rd rounders can be elite talents, but they're 2nd and 3rd rounders for a reason.

Don't overthink it.
 
Sure... I understand elite talent can be drafted anywhere. Guys are going to get paid as this team gets better and better. Not sure I even disagree with adding best player at 3. Just might be a little short sighted in long run.... might be over thinking but.... that's what I think great FO's do.
 
If you have the 3rd overall pick and don't need a QB, you explore every trade down option that is available.

You don't want to move too far down, if it takes you past the players you've identified as your top targets.

If no trade down is worthwhile you stay put and take the BPA (other than QB).
 
circumstances said:
If you have the 3rd overall pick and don't need a QB, you explore every trade down option that is available.

You don't want to move too far down, if it takes you past the players you've identified as your top targets.

If no trade down is worthwhile you stay put and take the BPA (other than QB).
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I'd still take the QB (not the QB weighted draft prediction, but if he's actually the best player) and then trade one of them.

Edit: Teams try to be cute and gamble that the guy they want will still be there, just because the teams ahead of them may not be sure about their current QB. Screw 'em.
 
circumstances said:
If you have the 3rd overall pick and don't need a QB, you explore every trade down option that is available.

You don't want to move too far down, if it takes you past the players you've identified as your top targets.

If no trade down is worthwhile you stay put and take the BPA (other than QB).
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Mock drafts are just that -- mock drafts. And many of them aren't inline with what actual GM's are thinking. But often times the very top players are indeed identified.

That said, many of the mocks I've seen have the likes of Chase, Smith and Waddle going anywhere from 3 to 15. Chase and Smith are in the top 10 in many of them.

So if MIA is to get one of them, it most likely won't be with their own 1st round pick. Same goes for Kyle Pitts.

Those guys are unlikely to be available between selections 19 - 24. Not even sure Marshall, Bateman, or Moore would be there depending upon how low that 2nd pick drops.

Guys like Ross, Olave and St. Brown are also intriguing, but it would be a lot nicer to already have one of the top prospects in the bag before them.

If MIA doesn't trade down from #3 and insteads opts for Sewell or Parsons, that becomes a real long shot.
 
Joe Dolfan said:
I'd still take the QB (not the QB weighted draft prediction, but if he's actually the best player) and then trade one of them.

Edit: Teams try to be cute and gamble that the guy they want will still be there, just because the teams ahead of them may not be sure about their current QB. Screw 'em.
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Maybe take the next best QB available after Lawrence and keep him, but I doubt in that scenario the Dolphins get more than a 2nd for Tua. See Rosen trade. If the Jets stick with Darnold and take Sewell at 2, there will be a market for Zach Wilson, who seems like the flavor of the month to be the next best QB drafted.
 
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