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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqe-0nM-kx8 2 seasons ago, saints destroyed an elite patriot team with randy moss and corp. Take a look at the highlights and see for yourself what throws the patriots of there game. Pressure, everyone is saying our main problems is conditioning and cbs that stuff but is it really? From looking at these highlights the main thing that won the saints this game was pressure, constantly in bradys face to the point where brady put both his hands on his helmet in frustration. What did the saints do that we didnt do? pressure, we gave brady days behind that pocket and that you cannot do. thoughts?
 
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Get to Brady you win..Teams know that..But its easier said than done..Miami actually blitzed more in the 2nd half then we did in the first half...and we gave up more points!!!

Blitzing and getting pressure is great, but when a player like Brady knows your blitzing , its only a matter of time until you get burned..We blitzed and got burned...
 
Same in the Giants vs Pats Super Bowl, the Giants were all over Brady the whole game. We used to always give Brady fits when JT was in his prime and was always in Brady's face. I'm not sure what happened on monday I didn't see very many of the Exotic blitz packages that Nolan was so highly touted for last year. Maybe he was afraid to blitz a lot because our secondary was getting burned, or maybe our secondary was getting burned because we weren't blitzing enough, who knows?
 
Brady had so much time back there that he could have masturbated for gods sake.

I bet that would have made gruden happy.
 
If you looked close Monday night even if we had the slightest pressure on Brady he did not complete a pass. Really messes his mind up.
 
Tunaphish429 said:
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Get to Brady you win..Teams know that..But its easier said than done..Miami actually blitzed more in the 2nd half then we did in the first half...and we gave up more points!!!

Blitzing and getting pressure is great, but when a player like Brady knows your blitzing , its only a matter of time until you get burned..We blitzed and got burned...
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gettin pressure doesnt necessarily mean doing it with a blitz. Another thing, we blitz when brady expected us too, we do everything backwards is the problem, we have to blitz when brady leasts expects it. Nolan should know this by now. We need pressure without the bliz, a 4 man rush with odrick/mcdaniel/starks/langford is what needs to bring us the pressure. Brady had way too much time, its easier said than done, but if the saints can do it, why cant we? is it they have better squeams or just better players in general? I dont know, but sparano needs to fix this if he ever wants to beat the pats. The guy has had 4 years now, and still cant get pressure on a qb without blitzing half your defense? just ludacris...
 
The 2009 Patriots were far from elite.

Brady is one of the best QB's in the game when it comes to recognizing and throwing against the blitz. The key is to get pressure up the middle with dlinemen. It happened in the SB with Tuck and against the Jets with Ellis. If you throw the house at the Pats they can always resort to the checkdown or get the ball out quickly to Welker or the TE's because no one will be covering them.
 
The only way you can beat the Pats is if you get to him WITHOUT blitzing. If you blitz ur ****ed. If you dont blitz and dont get pressure ur ****ed. Tahts what happend to us. We sucked **** pass rushing vs the Pats. Your base defense has to make plays. The idea is simple the execution is VERY DIFFICULT.
 
We're a 3-4...we don't get any pressure unless at least 1 linebacker is blitzing.
 
The problem with the "pressure" idea is that Brady is now running a no-huddle quite a bit, where he reads the defense pre-snap and makes the call based on it. He also has two excellent tight ends, which gives him the flexibility to use them as blockers or as receivers, depending on what the defense is showing.

Two problems that causes with the "pressure" idea: 1) the defense becomes too exhausted to apply effective pressure, and 2) Brady recognizes the impending pressure and audibles to something like the Wes Welker and Deion Branch plays we saw the other night, and the pressure comes back to haunt you.

Mark my words folks: the Pats will steamroll through the league this year, and by year's end we'll be looking back on this game as a smashing success on our part, having lost by only a dozen or so points, while scoring almost 30 of our own.
 
bigvince75 said:
The 2009 Patriots were far from elite.

Brady is one of the best QB's in the game when it comes to recognizing and throwing against the blitz. The key is to get pressure up the middle with dlinemen. It happened in the SB with Tuck and against the Jets with Ellis. If you throw the house at the Pats they can always resort to the checkdown or get the ball out quickly to Welker or the TE's because no one will be covering them.
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stop hating, saints beat the crap outta the pats and you wont ever give them credit for the blowout the pats.
 
Worth remembering this was a patched up NE line and that was before Koppen went down

It was puzzling to see some of our DL sets. First play from scrimmage we were in our nickel package (4 man front) which had Odrick at RDE and Merling at RDT. If anything those two are the wrong way round. Odrick a 4-3 end ? I don't see it. McDaniel (LDT) dropped back into coverage (!) so we only rushed three.

Odrick ended up playing more than Starks, Merling ended up playing more than Solai. I know they want to keep everyone fresh and I'm all for that but not at the expense of playing your reserves more than your best starters not to mention all the substitution issues they were having.
 
MarshallFin1 said:
stop hating, saints beat the crap outta the pats and you wont ever give them credit for the blowout the pats.
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where was I "hating?" you said that the 2009 Patriots were elite when they clearly were not. I give the Saints all the credit for the beatdown they gave the Pats, but the Patriots were an average, one-dimensional team that year.
 
Just remember,

Every team the Patriots faced last year saw that same game and the Patriots still walked away with 14 wins.
 
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