If you find and read CK's breakdown of Tannehill before the draft and look at his games you do see things that they have in common.
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/spo...g/2012/04/draft_winds_breaking_down_ryan.html
But a huge difference between Henne and Tannehill is that with Henne starting for 4 years, his game was etched in stone, Tannehill lack of experience gives him a edge here because he still has room to grow and get better.
I'm going to take my life in my own hands and mention some things I posted before the draft on another forum. I was not a fan of drafting Tannehill, once reason being that I have a bad feeling that the will be forced to play before he is ready.
But the thing to remember is that the draft is over, Ryan Tannehill is a Miami Dolphin.
could deal with the lack of starts, if he was a much later pick.
But I'd NEVER draft a QB with small hands.
And I do not like the way he throws the ball in a flat arc much like Chad Henne.
IMO, one thing that Matt Moore can do is drop the ball down over a defender to a WR etc. I saw him throw 2 such passes to R Bush last season that Chad Henne could not do in 100 tries.
Take a 55 gallon barrel and set it up 40 yard downfield. Henne could hit the barrel with enough tries but Moore could put the ball IN the barrel. If you puit a wall up, Henne would now have a bigger problem hitting the barrel.
There is a QB training tool that they used a few years ago at the Senior Bowl that Pat White simply could not do. They put a adjustable 8 to 10 foot screen up and ask you to drop the ball over it.
Tannehill has the same size hands as little Pat White
(I was wrong here). The NFL football is so much bigger then the college one. In a perfect situation with balls already worn in I'm sure that any QB could have a great Pro Day throwing against air.
John Beck had small hands and we saw what happened, the ball would just fall out of them when he tried to pass. The way a player adjusts is by putting his hand further back on the ball which messes with accuracy, the way the ball leaves his hand etc etc.
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/201 2/04/18/former-chicago-bears-college-scouting-dire ctor-says-ryan-tannehills-on-field-performance-war rants-2nd-or-3rd-round-pick/
Former Chicago Bears college scouting director says Ryan Tannehill’s on-field performance warrants 2nd or 3rd round pick
by Ben Volin
All of the numbers on
Ryan Tannehill look pretty good.
He looks the part of a franchise quarterback, standing 6-foot-4 and 225 pounds with good arm strength and pocket mobility. And he threw for 3,744 yards last year for Texas A&M, with 29 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, a healthy 61.6 completion percentage and 133.2 passer rating.
T
he numbers are a big reason why many people believe the Dolphins should draft Tannehill with the eighth overall pick in next week’s draft and make him their franchise quarterback.
But
Greg Gabriel, a 28-year NFL personnel veteran who last spent eight years as the Bears’ director of college scouting, dug a little further into Tannehill’s numbers. And he didn’t like what he saw.
“You look at the arm strength and athleticism, and I think that’s what people are falling in love with,” Gabriel said Tuesday on NFL Network. “But after that, there are faults in his game. I have questions about his leadership ability, and I have questions about his ability to make big plays when they have to be made. He doesn’t always make good decisions.”
Indeed, a look inside Texas A&M’s box scores from 2011 reveals some troubling trends about Tannehill.
Consider these facts:
The Aggies began the season with high expectations, ranked No. 8 in the country, but finished 6-6 and unranked.
They went 1-4 against top-25 teams, defeating only Baylor. Tannehill threw 13 touchdowns against nine interceptions against ranked teams, but six of those touchdowns — and only one interception — came against Baylor, whose pass defense was ranked 118th out of 120 FBS teams. Take out the Baylor game, and Tannehill threw seven touchdowns and eight interceptions against the other four ranked opponents, all losses.
The Aggies also lost to unranked Missouri and Texas. After the season, head coach
Mike Sherman (now the Dolphins’ offensive coordinator) was fired after four years on the job.
* The Aggies blew a lot of halftime leads.
They were up 20-3 on Oklahoma State but lost 30-29 as Tannehill threw three second-half interceptions, including one in the closing minutes to seal the loss. The very next week, they blew an 18-point halftime lead to Arkansas, scoring just three points in the second half in a 42-38 loss. Tannehill got the ball back with over two minutes left, and went four-and-out.
They blew an 11-point halftime lead to Missouri, scoring just three points in the second half (and none in overtime) in a 38-31 loss. And two weeks later against No. 17 Kansas State, the Aggies led 31-21 with 6:28 left but couldn’t hold on. Tannehill went three-and-out and stalled at midfield in his final two possessions of regulation.
For the 2011 season, Tannehill threw 19 touchdowns against six interceptions in the first half, but just 10 touchdowns and nine interceptions in the second half and overtime.
* His numbers were inflated by a high number of passing attempts.
He had more than 40 attempts in six of the Aggies’ 12 regular season games. Against Oklahoma State, it took him 47 pass attempts to get to 309 yards. Against Arkansas, he had 247 yards on 35 passing attempts. It took him 53 attempts to reach 317 passing yards against Missouri, and a whopping 64 passing attempts to get to 379 passing yards against Oklahoma.
* His completion percentages weren’t always great, either.
He did complete 71.4 percent of passes in the shootout against Arkansas, which is very good. He also completed just 50 percent against Oklahoma and 40.8 percent in the rivalry game against Texas to end the season (another blown second-half lead and last-second loss).
Add it all up — including the fact that Tannehill is still a raw quarterback with just 19 starts in college — and Gabriel, who also spent 16 years in the Giants’ scouting department, doesn’t believe the Dolphins should touch Tannehill with the eighth pick.
“I started looking at tape on Tannehill back in November, and at that point I thought he was a second-to-third round pick,” he said. “I don’t think you take a quarterback in the top 10 that lost (six) games they had to win.”
The bottom line is this.
We need a great QB and we have the 8th pick this season. Chances are decent that Ryan Tannehill will be there and chances are we will take him.
We all need to hope and pray that he has what is takes and maybe as if not more important, that we have the coaches to bring the most out of him (the way I understand it, we DO NOT have a QB coach).
In a little over 2 weeks, Ryan Tannehill might well be our "QB of the future". If we draft him we will all love him, if we do not we will complain about it and hope he is the "sour grapes" that Brady Quinn turned out to be.
Love the one you are with.
