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Tannehill cant audible??????

from nfl.com article today


"The frustration is understandable. Mike Wallace is being underutilized, and Ryan Tannehill isn't given any freedom to audible at the line"
 
I believe that when he gets to the line, he has a choice between a run or pass. It's determined by the number of defenders in the box. If there are 6 or fewer guys in the box, they hand off.
 
That's training wheels. You can't even put him in the conversation of being a franchise QB unless you can trust him to change the play at the line of scrimmage. If they can't trust the QB to get you in the right play, then all that talk I keep hearing about "trusting" each other is a bunch of BS. I want a QB not a puppet.
 
Interesting article. It actually talks about Lazor's abrasiveness with some of the offensive starters.

Here is a link to the article

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ins-frustrated-by-lack-of-identity-on-offense


Miami offensive coordinator Bill Lazor seems to be finding his way as a first-time coordinator, but is he losing some of his players in the process?

According to NFL Media's Jeff Darlington, who spoke to several Dolphins players, Lazor's "abrasive" tenor with several starters has worn thing and has led to a growing rift in the locker room. Meanwhile, "An inconsistent identity on offense is internally magnifying the issue."

The frustration is understandable. Mike Wallace is being underutilized, and Ryan Tannehill isn't given any freedom to audible at the line. Some weeks, the team is able to air it out and put up almost 40 points, and some weeks they revert to a run-first philosophy that, on four different occasions, has seen the Dolphins come in under 200 passing yards in a game.

For now, the unhappiness seems to be self-contained. The Dolphins are 5-4 and despite the inconsistency, they know they possess the ability to blow out some quality teams.

Can they hone it for a five-week stretch where they face three divisional opponents in a month long span that will define their season? Or will they hear some of the same complaints with plenty of quality defenses -- Buffalo (whom the Dolphins face Thursday, exclusively on NFL Network), Denver, New England, Baltimore -- coming down the pike?

It could very well come to personify Lazor's first year in Miami.
 
I know he made an "easy, easy, easy" call at least once which I'm 99% sure was an audible, it came during the Chiefs game I believe, on that play that was scrutinized to death where Miller looked wide open but Hartline dropped it.
 
I believe that when he gets to the line, he has a choice between a run or pass. It's determined by the number of defenders in the box. If there are 6 or fewer guys in the box, they hand off.

i dont...cause he nots making any calls that tell me he's changing the play from a run to a pass...the only thing he is doing that i see is setting protections and communicating them to the oline...making sure satele has it etc and they know who the mike is to key etc...

in read option there's no check out anyway...everything is predicated on what happens post snap...

but in these under center play action vertical attempts etc there is no reason he shouldnt be able to check out...same for some of the red zone and shotgun sets we run
 
i dont...cause he nots making any calls that tell me he's changing the play...the only thing he is doing that i see is setting protections and communicating them to the oline...making sure satele has it etc and they know who the mike is to key etc

Yep, Obviously we don't know for sure..But, it sure seems to me he is not changing anything. It doesn't even seem there are any "check with me" plays. I'm sure you know what I mean by "check with me", so I wont pummel my keyboard any longer.
 
from nfl.com article today


"The frustration is understandable. Mike Wallace is being underutilized, and Ryan Tannehill isn't given any freedom to audible at the line"

First, I like Darlington. I trust his articles more than most writers. The truth is there is a political dimension to this information. Information reaches the media when people within the building want to put political pressure on management or when they are covering their behind. Take the article with a grain of salt.

If I accept this article as fact for the purpose of discussion, I am conflicted about how to feel about it. Tannehill has been playing better recently when Lazor calls plays to his strengths. Lazor appears to have simplified the calls and shortened the time to the balls release by calling short to intermediate plays. Do we complain about improved performance. Is Tannehill playing better because they have limited his choices?

If I take off the political blinders, I have no conclusion to draw. It does make this game very, very, very important to the next 5 years of the Dolphins organization. If they lay an egg, the mud is going to be slung in every direction!
 
I know he made an "easy, easy, easy" call at least once which I'm 99% sure was an audible, it came during the Chiefs game I believe, on that play that was scrutinized to death where Miller looked wide open but Hartline dropped it.

and for the 1000th time that is a protection call...not an audible...that call was to make sure the oline slanted down and picked up the inside blitzer with the qb knowing the free top side edge rusher cant get there if he gets the ball out quick...which the hartline slant was the correct read and decision
 
i dont...cause he nots making any calls that tell me he's changing the play from a run to a pass...the only thing he is doing that i see is setting protections and communicating them to the oline...making sure satele has it etc and they know who the mike is to key etc...

in read option there's no check out anyway...everything is predicated on what happens post snap...

but in these under center play action vertical attempts etc there is no reason he shouldnt be able to check out...same for some of the red zone and shotgun sets we run

I've seen him allow too many runs into a loaded box to believe he has the capability to audible out of them. because if he did, then he's just a terrible qb for never doing so.
 
Maybe they haven't given Tannehill full control because he's only 9 games into a new offensive system and he just hasn't been allowed to audible "yet".
 
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