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Tannehill set for a breakout season?

How is he supposed to catch balls thrown 5 and 10 yards out of his reach?

Early in the season, the passes were under thrown. Those types of passes happen every week in the NFL. Professional receivers regularly adjust and make the catch. Wallace seemed incapable of that at times. The pass he caught while straddling the sideline against TB was particularly ridiculous. As was the potential game winning deep ball against Carolina. Both of those could have been thrown better but should have been caught the way they were thrown. Those were not the only two.
 
Early in the season, the passes were under thrown. Those types of passes happen every week in the NFL. Professional receivers regularly adjust and make the catch. Wallace seemed incapable of that at times. The pass he caught while straddling the sideline against TB was particularly ridiculous. As was the potential game winning deep ball against Carolina. Both of those could have been thrown better but should have been caught the way they were thrown. Those were not the only two.


Cmon bro stop making so much sense , this is fiinheaven...where irrational people run rampant
 
There's just no overstating the impact of an effective ground game. If you don't have it, you lose. You need to run the ball in critical times. You don't have to run the ball all day or get chunk yardage all the time, but if you can't be balanced, you lose, if you can't lean on the run game when you need it on a particular drive, it's over for you. The Dolphins racked up plenty of passing yards last year, and we were still terrible.

As far as that deep-drop, play action style you pointed out with the Eagles, Tannehill would personally love that. It suits his style. He's good with play action, and he likes a lot of time to throw the ball, and doesn't like to stand in a crowd of defenders.

There's no doubt that Lazor will try to have plays develop faster and not leave the QB back there exposed like last year. The O line is a work in progress.

That's the exact opposite of what I've been saying. I am explicitly doubting what you say there is "no doubt" about. Last year the Dolphins ran an offensive style designed to get the ball out of Ryan Tannehill's hands very quickly. So, no the Dolphins did not just "leave the QB back there exposed". On the other hand in Philadelphia, Lazor was part of an effort that absolutely did "leave the QB back there exposed". They held the ball the longest in the NFL.

There's been a lot of TALK from Lazor about getting the ball out of Tannehill's hands but that's a dubious indicator of things to come. If they're calling more play-actions and deeper drop depths then Tannehill will be holding the ball longer than last year and that will put more pressure on the line to hold their water. It would actually make sense if Lazor kept trying to drill Tannehill on the idea of getting the ball out of his hands, because the design of the plays require holding onto the ball longer and that leaves the quarterback with very little margin for error between holding the ball the correct amount of time and having held the ball "too long". If the backfield action, drop depth and route combinations require 3.0 seconds before the QB can get the ball off, and you know that 4.0 seconds is "too long", then that 1.0 seconds is a slimmer margin for error than if the backfield action, drop depth and route combinations only required 2.5 seconds before the QB could comfortably get the ball off. That's why you drill it into the quarterback's head extra hard that he needs to get the ball out. Less margin for error means more pressure to get it right.
 
One thing I always forget is that Tannehill has had the same OC throughout his college and professional career. This will be the first time that he has really had to learn something new. Hopefully it all clicks asap.
 
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One thing I always forget is that Tannehill has had the same OC throughout his college and professional career. This will be the first time that he has really had to learn something new. Hopefully it all clicks asap.

That is what scares me the most. Even being in the same system for such a long time, he only looked mediocre. Hopefully the system is to blame and not the quarterback for his lack of playmaking ability.
 
Another article on Tannehill taking the next step:

Lazor’s kind of personalization and attention to ways to take pressure off the quarterback should greatly aid Tannehill in making a huge leap forward this year. From Tannehill’s own performance, it’s clear that his personal talent is advancing on its own, and was growing under a system that didn’t fit the pieces it had to work with. Now we get to see a chess grandmaster work with him and utilize his skills in the best way possible.

The blocking concepts Lazor brings over from Philadelphia should benefit a less-than-stellar line in keeping their oft-battered quarterback on his feet. Given the results with the 2013 Eagles, there will likely be a greater emphasis on the run. This, however, will also help to draw attention away from Tannehill and allow him to thrive in a fast-paced system. We may not see much more volume from Ryan Tannehill this year, but I expect his passing quality and efficiency to jump sky high, as his success finally takes off.


https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/2695/why-ryan-tannehill-can-take-the-next-step-in-2014
 
That is what scares me the most. Even being in the same system for such a long time, he only looked mediocre. Hopefully the system is to blame and not the quarterback for his lack of playmaking ability.

He just has to correct the deep ball to wallace. I think he can, but we'll have to see. If he doesnt take the next step this year, we need to at least bring in competion.
 
CK's concern about more sacks being possible is valid, though I end up thinking that the Dolphins offense in 2014 will look very similar to the Dolphins offense in 2013 and not very much like the Eagles offense from last year.

Maybe a few members who were familiar with Lazor's offense from his time at Virginia can fill us in on the typical depth of drops/number of sacks of quarterbacks during his tenure. Obviously a good coach reacts to personnel but it might be more instructive than the way Nick Foles was coached last year... which was to hold onto the ball and take a sack rather than risk a dicey throw.
 
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