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Tannehill's Deep Post (and although it's been said many times many waysss....)

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By far the throw he struggles with the most, we saw him this Saturday miss a wide open Wallace by floating it right up the middle of the field instead of leading him.

Here is the one thing i picked up on that weirded me out, in one of the replays from the far end zone you see Tannehill in the back and he's sort of jumping up and down like " ohhh ohhh i hope he gets it"

I've gotten buried on here before for posting things about being a former quaterback so sorry if this bugs people but i have never done that nor seen anyone i played against or went to camps with do it. It's not something a QB does when you throw a long ball you can tell withing the first second if your ball is going to hit its mark just based on the velocity and angle you let go of it with.

When Tannehill throws his deep ball it's like he's throwing a hail Mary every time he throws it and hopes its gonna get to the receiver on target.

The deep post and skinny post are some of the most explosive routes you can run as well as the most friendly to a receiver with Wallaces' skill set. the route gives fast WR's the ability to make a move while already having a great deal of momentum and drive away from a defender while kicking it into the next gear.

I'm sure anyone else who has played the position at a higher level can agree if you threw that pass the second you let go of it you'd know the second it left your hands that pass was wayyyy off its mark.

Lazor teaches a system where you are throwing to spaces and this just highlights how poor Tannehills anticipation is with this deeper passes. He's missed it in back to back games which a GAME CHANGING plays that resulted in a mere loss of a down.

This throw should be an EXTREMELY easy throw to complete at this level, this is a pass that should be expected to be completed at ANY collegiate level of football.



I started off pulling for Tannehill after not wanting to draft him at all (he lacked this same skills in college surprisingly) but seeing these past two games its making it almost impossible to think he's going to just flip a switch and start hitting passes he's never hit before.



Even though we give him grief for it Brady being furious with himself on the sideline for missing a play is so much better than Tannehill walking back to the sidelines peering up at the jumbotron w/o showing any physical emotion.



To end i think we do have a really talented team and we can over come some of these deficiencies Tannehill exudes and make a run at the playoffs. The game we played was awful but i do think it was a bit of an anomaly, the energy that stadium and team had with the RW name hung up and Jim Kelly's speech it would have been tough for any team in the league to take them down this past weekend.


thanks for the read
 
RT Throws a nice 20-30 yard pass, but beyond that he doesn't put enough trajectory (air) under the ball.
He physically doesn't have the arm strength to put it high enough to lead the receiver.
Bob Griese and Jay Feidler had a better deep ball. They could not throw it over 50 yards, but it had the right trajectory.
Distance means nothing if the pass is not receiver friendly.
That is my take.
 
RT Throws a nice 20-30 yard pass, but beyond that he doesn't put enough trajectory (air) under the ball.
He physically doesn't have the arm strength to put it high enough to lead the receiver.
Bob Griese and Jay Feidler had a better deep ball. They could not throw it over 50 yards, but it had the right trajectory.
Distance means nothing if the pass is not receiver friendly.
That is my take.

I've maintained for a long time the arc on his ball is a problem outside of the short/intermediate area. I remember CKParrot argued with me nonstop.
 
RT Throws a nice 20-30 yard pass, but beyond that he doesn't put enough trajectory (air) under the ball.
He physically doesn't have the arm strength to put it high enough to lead the receiver.
Bob Griese and Jay Feidler had a better deep ball. They could not throw it over 50 yards, but it had the right trajectory.
Distance means nothing if the pass is not receiver friendly.
That is my take.

oh my. I thought I never read or hear something like that. :lol:

But you are right.
 
I would say he hit Hartline in stride between the 8 and 2. Just saying
 
Youre right that we have a good team with some really good players on it. It is a shame we keep wasting opportunities by rolling out garbage QBs like Henne and Tannehill.

If this team wants to make the playoffs, it will take Matt Moore coming in and playing decent. This team has no chance of winning long term with Hennehill at QB.
 
RT Throws a nice 20-30 yard pass, but beyond that he doesn't put enough trajectory (air) under the ball.
He physically doesn't have the arm strength to put it high enough to lead the receiver.
Bob Griese and Jay Feidler had a better deep ball. They could not throw it over 50 yards, but it had the right trajectory.
Distance means nothing if the pass is not receiver friendly.
That is my take.

Sorry Langer, been to many games QBacked by Fiedler and his long ball sucked big time! That ball would hover so much 3 defenders were always waiting for it. He just had the luxury sometimes of Chambers fighting for the ball.
 
I've maintained for a long time the arc on his ball is a problem outside of the short/intermediate area. I remember CKParrot argued with me nonstop.

Tannehill couldnt win a $10 foosball tourney, much less a $1000 one.
 
Sorry Langer, been to many games QBacked by Fiedler and his long ball sucked big time! That ball would hover so much 3 defenders were always waiting for it. He just had the luxury sometimes of Chambers fighting for the ball.

Meh. I was at a live game in Indy where Peyton Manning got his jaw broken by Lorenzo Bromell and Jay Fiedler hit Chris Chambers deep on a beautiful deep ball in the 4th qtr to win the game 27-23.

Having said that, Fiedler missed so many great play action opportunities deep to Chambers it was sick. Ricky set that offense up so well, but Fiedler left a ton of points on the field when he would miss Chambers wide open for a TD.

He did hit that nice one to Leslie Sheppard in the miracle at the meadowlands too. Maybe that game didnt earn its name because the Jests came back from down 30-7 for the win. Maybe it was because Fiedler actually hit a nice deep ball that night.

But, yea. Fiedler had a better deep ball than Tannehill. Just the fact that I could remember two big ones off the top of my head says a lot. I cant remember Tannehill hitting a perfect deep ball. We got that one to Wallace vs. Carolina, but Wallace made that play.
 
The OP makes some good points and so does Langer although I think he's got the arm strength when he sets his feet.
My take is with so many misses it's a head thing by now. Matt Moore (for example) sees a receiver breaking behind coverage and gets excited knowing he's gonna hit him in stride for the easy TD.
I think Ryan may be thinking oh **** , I gotta make this throw. Once he hits a couple in a game and gets the monkey off his back this should change. We're still waiting for that to happen.
 
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Last night MNF -> I saw Luck throw a sure pick in the EZ that was dropped - **** happens dude

I also saw Luck throw behind WRs... **** happens dude....
 
IMO he throws the deep ball late. The distance would be ok if he pulls the trigger quicker. He waits until the receiver is behind the defender and then throws it. He needs to trust Wallace's speed and throw it up quicker. If it gets picked it would probably be farther than our punter is punting anyway.
 
All of this because A. we are so starved as a fan base for a winner and B. we were spoiled all those years with Marino magic. Lets let them play out a few more games before we burn Tannehill at the stake.
 
It is frustrating seeing us miss time and time again on the deep ball.

One thing that really bugs me (and at first I thought it was a cross-up between Wallace and Tanny) is when Wallace has his man beat and there are NO defenders in the middle of the field, Wallace goes post, and Tanny throws behind him. Crap, all he has to do is throw it to the open spot on the field and let Wallace run to it.

And he needs more touch on the ball. He throws darts when he needs more arc to get it over the defenders.
 
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