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It appears, like it or hate it, Mike is our point man for Ross. He trusts him, for some reason. So let's take a look at his body of work. He was the GM for the Jets from 2006-2012. Here are those drafts:

2006:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Nick Mangold
Kellen Clemens
Anthony Schegel
Eric Smith
Brad Smith
Leon Washington
Jason Pociask
Drew Coleman
Titus Adams

2007:
Darrell Revis
David Harris
Jacob Bender
Chanci Stuckey

2008:
Vernon Gholdston
Dustin Keller
Dwight Lowery
Erik Ainge
Marcus Henry
Nate Garner

2009:
Mark Sanchez
Shonne Green
Matt Slausen

2010:
Kyle Wilson
Vlad Ducasse
Joe McKnight
Jon Connor

2011:
Muhammed Wilkerson
Kendrick Ellis
Bilal Powell
Jeremy Kerley
Greg McElroy
Scott McKnight.
 
After his first couple of years those drafts are pretty damn bad
 
His first drafts look pretty good. I wonder if later Woody Johnson or Rex Ryan had more influence on the drafts.
 
It appears, like it or hate it, Mike is our point man for Ross. He trusts him, for some reason. So let's take a look at his body of work. He was the GM for the Jets from 2006-2012. Here are those drafts:

2006:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Nick Mangold
Kellen Clemens
Anthony Schegel
Eric Smith
Brad Smith
Leon Washington
Jason Pociask
Drew Coleman
Titus Adams

2007:
Darrell Revis
David Harris
Jacob Bender
Chanci Stuckey

2008:
Vernon Gholdston
Dustin Keller
Dwight Lowery
Erik Ainge
Marcus Henry
Nate Garner

2009:
Mark Sanchez
Shonne Green
Matt Slausen

2010:
Kyle Wilson
Vlad Ducasse
Joe McKnight
Jon Connor

2011:
Muhammed Wilkerson
Kendrick Ellis
Bilal Powell
Jeremy Kerley
Greg McElroy
Scott McKnight.

6 players drafted by him made all pro teams, not pro bowl but all pro.
18 of the guys drafted became starters/key contributors
13 became key contributors on playoff teams
traded up in draft for lock hall of famer and arguably the greatest cover corner of all time. last drafted a HOFer? John Riggins, last time we drafted a HOFer that made it b/c of his years as a Jet? Joe Namath.

The biggest issue is he gave away too many picks but he turned those traded picks into good players that helped his team become legitimate SB contenders. The last time Miami was a legit SB contender was 1994 and that w/c the AFC was really bad, the last time Miami made a title game they didn't compete despite hosting the game. It's comical how fans of a once proud organization that has made ONE playoff spot since 2002 and has ZERO playoff wins since 2001 can bash Mike Tannenbaum for what he has done.
 
Revis is not even in the conversation for "Greatest cover corner of all time", so no - it is not arguable.

Edit: I've seen your prior contributions, I've witnessed delusion and I know you refuse to admit your wrong despite evidence to the contrary so I will not be going back and forth with you on this, just know that the narrative is rejected. Revis is not even in the Woodson/Sanders echelon yet.
 
In all those drafts his first season is the only year he had a full draft. Two drafts with 6 players, two with 4, and one with 3. This is what scares me the most with this new direction. Under Parcells I remember him trading a 7th round pick because they had no one left on their board and he actually admitted it. I have a feeling that Tannenbaum coming from the Parcells tree also will not value later round picks. For me the seventh round needs as much attention as the first maybe more, but if you know your boss doesn't give a crap about the 6th and 7th round why bother. I think Tannenbaum is going to give us more of the same. Shocking spectacular moves like Suh, Wallace, and replacing out lb corp with high priced FA. Only to watch all these moves spectacularly fail.
 
6 players drafted by him made all pro teams, not pro bowl but all pro.
18 of the guys drafted became starters/key contributors
13 became key contributors on playoff teams
traded up in draft for lock hall of famer and arguably the greatest cover corner of all time. last drafted a HOFer? John Riggins, last time we drafted a HOFer that made it b/c of his years as a Jet? Joe Namath.

The biggest issue is he gave away too many picks but he turned those traded picks into good players that helped his team become legitimate SB contenders. The last time Miami was a legit SB contender was 1994 and that w/c the AFC was really bad, the last time Miami made a title game they didn't compete despite hosting the game. It's comical how fans of a once proud organization that has made ONE playoff spot since 2002 and has ZERO playoff wins since 2001 can bash Mike Tannenbaum for what he has done.
Yes but your Jets were in cap hell and John Idzik had to come in and do the dirty work. Then got fired after he got everything with the cap back in line.
 
Yes but your Jets were in cap hell and John Idzik had to come in and do the dirty work. Then got fired after he got everything with the cap back in line.

we were not in cap hell, it was an easy fix and would have been fixed just as easily w/ Tannenbaum. the reason we bottomed out in 2014 leads back to the firing of Mike. The 2015 season we have had really should have taken place in 2014 and w/ Mike it likely does. Mike is aggressive, too aggressive at times which is his biggest flaw, idzik was stockpiling cap space for a future he never got. He also acquired 12 draft picks in 2014 and totally whiffed on the draft, Tannenbaum would have 3-4 picks but would usually hit on a few and bring in vets w/ those picks he traded away that would help our team.


Mike is not Ozzie Newsome but he did a good job for us. He inherited an aging roster and had to make drastic changes after year 2 where we had the worst OL in football then in one offseason he gave us one of the best. we had one of the best OL and DLs in the game and all of a sudden were SB contenders b/c of it. the cost went up and we would eventually have to make some tough decisions but he built legit SB contenders and in each title game run we had some major injuries we had to overcome and he provided us w/ the depth to do so.
 
we were not in cap hell, it was an easy fix and would have been fixed just as easily w/ Tannenbaum. the reason we bottomed out in 2014 leads back to the firing of Mike. The 2015 season we have had really should have taken place in 2014 and w/ Mike it likely does. Mike is aggressive, too aggressive at times which is his biggest flaw, idzik was stockpiling cap space for a future he never got. He also acquired 12 draft picks in 2014 and totally whiffed on the draft, Tannenbaum would have 3-4 picks but would usually hit on a few and bring in vets w/ those picks he traded away that would help our team.


Mike is not Ozzie Newsome but he did a good job for us. He inherited an aging roster and had to make drastic changes after year 2 where we had the worst OL in football then in one offseason he gave us one of the best. we had one of the best OL and DLs in the game and all of a sudden were SB contenders b/c of it. the cost went up and we would eventually have to make some tough decisions but he built legit SB contenders and in each title game run we had some major injuries we had to overcome and he provided us w/ the depth to do so.

In his first season in 2013 as general manager, Idzik released linebacker Bart Scott, defensive back Eric Smith, offensive lineman Jason Smith, and defensive tackle Sione Pouha. In free agency, he added quarterback David Garrard, running back Mike Goodson, offensive lineman Willie Colon, linebacker Antwan Barnes, and safety Dawan Landry. Prior to the 2013 NFL Draft, Idzik traded star cornerback Darrelle Revis to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in exchange for their first round selection (13th overall) in the 2013 NFL Draft and a conditional pick in the 2014 NFL Draft. He also agreed to a trade with the New Orleans Saints to obtain running back Chris Ivory for a fourth round selection (106th overall). His first draft class saw him select cornerback Dee Milliner with the 9th overall selection, Sheldon Richardson with the 13th overall selection, and Geno Smith with the 39th overall selection. Upon the drafting of Smith, Idzik also chose to release quarterback Tim Tebow on April 29, 2013.

With the Jets making the change in quarterback to rookie Geno Smith, the team went 8–8 and finished second in the AFC East in Idzik's first season as general manager.

During the 2014 offseason, Idzik released a number of players, including cornerback Antonio Cromartie, wide receiver Santonio Holmes, and quarterback Mark Sanchez. To replace Sanchez, Idzik added veteran quarterback Michael Vick, who previously worked in offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg's system with the Philadelphia Eagles. In addition to Vick, Idzik also signed former Seattle Seahawks offensive lineman Breno Giacomini and former Denver Broncos wide receiver Eric Decker. In April, Idzik saw an opportunity to bolster the offensive side of the ball by adding veteran running back Chris Johnson, formerly of the Tennessee Titans. The 2014 NFL Draft saw the Jets have 12 draft selections, including 18th overall selection safety Calvin Pryor and 49th overall selection tight end Jace Amaro. Idzik addressed the wide receiver position with a trio of wide receivers in the 4th round, including Jalen Saunders, Shaquelle Evans, and Quincy Enunwa. Saunders and Enunwa were subsequently cut from the team after the start of the season although Enunwa later returned to the active roster on December 27, 2014.[2]

During the 2014 season, Idzik received a large amount of criticism for the lack of talent he provided on the roster. As a result, a group of fans raised money to purchase billboards in New Jersey reading "Fire John Idzik" and passed out rally towels with the same message at select home games. A second group of fans flew a plane over the Jets practice facility with the same message.

Idzik was fired on December 29, 2014 after two seasons with the team.[3]
 
Yes but your Jets were in cap hell and John Idzik had to come in and do the dirty work. Then got fired after he got everything with the cap back in line.

He will always say that they had no cap issues much like some fans on here think renegotiating a few contracts wont hurt us down the line.
2013 they were up against the cap and had little to no flexibility in free agency. They were eating fairly major dead cap space for a couple of seasons after Tannebaum.
 
Traded a 3rd and exchanged a later pick and a few mil for Tebow.

Unnecessarily extended the stat 27th best passer in the league into cap hell

Signed a washed up LT

Passed on Russell Wilson despite Bradway's urging and chose to ride with Bufffumble, instead drafting Stephen Hill in the 2nd

Drafted Vlad DuCasse in the 2nd round

2011 Jets clubhouse imploded on his watch just like the 2015 Fins clubhouse did

Hired 52-58 Rex Ryan

His teams won 2 more games than they lost during his Jets tenure. That includes the 2 out of 4 games he won in 07 which were against the even more pathetic 1 win fins and the 2 gift games Indy and Cinci gave them without which they never would have made the postseason in 09

Front office personnel pimping for Brett Favre to nail employee Jen Starger during his watch

Sal Alessi Trip Gate under his watch

Cap Hell under his watch
 
While not a huge fan of Mike T I'm about 1,000,000% sure every person on this board would have taken "cap hell" for the playoff runs they had in 09 and 10. I've always been in the belief that if that had a capable QB in one of those two years they would have won a Super Bowl. They had the D and the running game to do it. In the end, the facts are that they got to a place in back to back years that Miami hasn't sniffed since my sophomore year in high school. I'm going to be 39 this year.
 
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