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Actually it's worse if you have a top pick....the guy that made this up must have a low pick for sure.
 
Actually it's worse if you have a top pick....the guy that made this up must have a low pick for sure.

Not really it is designed to give the Number 1 overall some value to move out and combat against the money.

When a team selecting 5th overall has to make up 1,300 points as per old system and then also such that money up it is a big issue to try and move out.

In the new chart the 5 position only needs to make up 325 points. and then suck the big money up. That is more appealing.

Yes it says top teams will not get "entire drafts" to move out. But will help them try to move down.
 
Not really it is designed to give the Number 1 overall some value to move out and combat against the money.

When a team selecting 5th overall has to make up 1,300 points as per old system and then also such that money up it is a big issue to try and move out.

In the new chart the 5 position only needs to make up 325 points. and then suck the big money up. That is more appealing.

Yes it says top teams will not get "entire drafts" to move out. But will help them try to move down.

I guess that one way to look at it...I rather believe it take the value out of having the top three picks in the draft. To trade up from the 5th pick to the 1st pick doesn't cost a team even a second round pick.
 
The ridiculous salaries top picks are making probably affects the new chart a lot.
 
I guess that one way to look at it...I rather believe it take the value out of having the top three picks in the draft. To trade up from the 5th pick to the 1st pick doesn't cost a team even a second round pick.

That's a good point.

It would take the team with the #5 pick to swap 1st's a 3rd and a 4th to move up, but according to this chart a 2nd would be too much.
 
I understand what you are saying about the Pick Value.

But the Bottomline is the contract number of a 5th overall and a 3rd round pick will come pretty close to equaling that 1 overall if not be more than.

That is the driving factor of this new chart the money
 
I understand what you are saying about the Pick Value.

But the Bottomline is the contract number of a 5th overall and a 3rd round pick will come pretty close to equaling that 1 overall if not be more than.

That is the driving factor of this new chart the money

The chart has nothing to do with the money...the money will be taken care of when the CBA is done...all this chart does....it makes the lower picks equal to the higher picks...and thats nuts.
 
I think the chart is alittle undervalued. But is closer to reality in a draft like this (still think it should cost a second and a third to move up 4 or 5 spots).

But you cant tell me if a Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning type guy is sitting at the top of a draft that this chart would be accurate. Riddiculous.
 
The chart has nothing to do with the money...the money will be taken care of when the CBA is done...all this chart does....it makes the lower picks equal to the higher picks...and thats nuts.

The money is the reason they are tweaking the charts.

The most recent ESPN the Magazine has an article about the old value chart being off and what the values should be based on research from 2006 done by two professors called "The Loser's Curse: Overconfidence vs. Market Efficiency in the NFL Draft."

The old values put too much emphasis on high draft picks, as Jimmy Johnson (the guy who created it along with his staff) based the old values on the previous four years' worth of trades involving draft picks, basing their point system on what the market was telling them.

Now that the money comes with those High picks. It is to much to get up there to deal. Not only do you have un-godly high values for the top picks but then you have the contract to go with it.
 
The money is the reason they are tweaking the charts.

The most recent ESPN the Magazine has an article about the old value chart being off and what the values should be based on research from 2006 done by two professors called "The Loser's Curse: Overconfidence vs. Market Efficiency in the NFL Draft."

The old values put too much emphasis on high draft picks, as Jimmy Johnson (the guy who created it along with his staff) based the old values on the previous four years' worth of trades involving draft picks, basing their point system on what the market was telling them.

Now that the money comes with those High picks. It is to much to get up there to deal. Not only do you have un-godly high values for the top picks but then you have the contract to go with it.

Again...those days are numbered...the high rookie salaries will be over soon...but that chart has nothing to do with money....it's what payment is due for the trading of picks...picks are the key word. The current chart has a pick value of 1200 points from the 5th to the 1st....the new chart has a value of 325 points. While some may like the lower figure...I'll bet the teams holding the top three picks will not. When you have a top player coming out...you have to pay for him...if you want him that badly...under the new chart...that price is a joke. No team with the top pick will trade out...if they know all they will get is perhaps a 3rd or 4th round pick for doing so.
 
The chart needed an overhaul, but the #1 overall pick is still more valuable than just 100 points over the #2 pick. Even when you account for the contract, it's worth more than 100 points to be able to draft ANY player you like, and to be able to negotiate with him & his agent before you do--when no one else can.

Like most things in life, the change was an improvement, but the pendulum swung too far in the other direction.

Further, we don't (and may not) know whether this has been unofficially accepted by 90% of the teams, or rejected by just as many. So we shall see.
 
It's not bad. The #1 overall is still worth pretty much the whole 4th round....
 
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