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Tebow Is Hot Garbage

No matter what you say about his bad delivery or terrible footwork, no one can discount that this guy is a winner and scores touchdowns. How? With all that going against him? With each team they play knowing he's going to run? Yet he still does it. Got to give him props.

No NFL team has had a chance to game-plan against him...until now.

His career is going to be very short lived unless he figures out the accuracy thing. The rest of his mechanics could be overlooked, but this kid can't hit the ocean if standing in the middle of it.
 
I understand what you're saying, and much truth in it.

He is undoubtedly a great guy. A guy I would really like to meet. I'm not very religious, but if that didn't bother him, we could probably have a very good conversation...

All that being said. Has anybody in here touting him actually seen this guy play?
Each and every time the ball leaves this guys hands, it's a complete crapshoot where its going to land. Pretty sure he says a prayer the entire time its in the air.

He doesn't miss by a little bit either. He repeatedly misses by 10's of yards.

He does very well running the ball, but that is going to be short lived in the NFL, especially cause he's not shifty doing it.

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Really?

What exactly do you base that on?

Watch the film of Tebow against Oklahoma in the championship game or the Alabama game that same year before you completely deride his arm and accuracy. In a perfect world Tebow would in fact be more accurate and have a quicker, less awkward delivery. But in the course of his UF career- and I'm not a Gators fan- he showed that he could throw the football pretty darned well. Some of the many throws to Percy Harvin, Riley Cooper, etc., attest to that. His accuracy is definitely not top notch, but it's made out to be far worse than it really is.

The arm talk is overblown imo- he'll never be an ideal pocket passer, and that's why Kyle Orton beat him out in training camp. But real games are not training camp- looking good throwing the ball in shorts ceases to be the most important factor when the real bullets start flying. Leading his team on scoring drives, clutch plays, throwing or running when needed, being a fiery, passionate leader- dude's a winner. Why do you think that they're going ballistic for him in Denver? Because he's religious? Hell no- it's because he's a winner, and now the fiery, aggressive leader of their football team.

You can say all you want about his awkward delivery and what you see as a lack of accuracy, but I would counter that this is not Frank Costa, Josh Heupel or Danny Weurfell version 2 that we're looking at. And if I'm wrong- well I'm wrong. And I don't think that I am. Nor do I think that I'm wrong about Christian Ponder, who I think will become a very good NFL Quarterback. My prediction for Tim Tebow's performance today:

275 yards passing
2 pass TDs
1 rush TD
game MVP
Broncos win game
crowd cheers more for Tebow than any other player on the field
1st start for Tebow in a long, productive carrer as an NFL QB
 
So let me see if i understand this correctly: the original poster of this thread announces the opposing teams quarterback is not a good player and he hopes he fails.

And Miami Dolphin fans jump up to defend.....that opposing teams quarterback. Some of the people defending him are ones that have previously shouted down the "Suck for Luck" crowd and questioned their fandom.

Interesting season. Can't wait until we play John Beck, that should make this board even more entertaining.
 
I'm sick all this tebow hype.. The guy has done nothing. I hope he poo's all over the field. I honestly think we are going to smash these guys and tebow is going to get rocked all game.

Screw Tebow, Screw denver, Screw Luck. Let's Go Fins. First win of the season tomorrow.. You heard it hear!!!


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Doubtful, we have a habit of making unproven and backup QB's look like probowl players.
 
I hate the Gators, hated Tebow at UF . . . no problems with him in the NFL and despite the hate I respect what he brings to a team.

That being said I don't think anybody knows how this game is going to turn out today. Today this game screams "Dolphins turn it around". A desperate team going against a dreadful defense at home. Fortunately being a Dolphin fan for these past 10 years reality suggests a Dolphins meltdown and Tebow leading the Broncos on a game winning drive to keep the Fins winless in a crowd full of Tebow lovers. That would be typical.

If the latter happens, I am completely done with the 2011 Miami Dolphins and honestly I would expect the fire sale to begin. Just too many slaps in the face.
 
Watch the film of Tebow against Oklahoma in the championship game or the Alabama game that same year before you completely deride his arm and accuracy. In a perfect world Tebow would in fact be more accurate and have a quicker, less awkward delivery. But in the course of his UF career- and I'm not a Gators fan- he showed that he could throw the football pretty darned well. Some of the many throws to Percy Harvin, Riley Cooper, etc., attest to that. His accuracy is definitely not top notch, but it's made out to be far worse than it really is.

The arm talk is overblown imo- he'll never be an ideal pocket passer, and that's why Kyle Orton beat him out in training camp. But real games are not training camp- looking good throwing the ball in shorts ceases to be the most important factor when the real bullets start flying. Leading his team on scoring drives, clutch plays, throwing or running when needed, being a fiery, passionate leader- dude's a winner. Why do you think that they're going ballistic for him in Denver? Because he's religious? Hell no- it's because he's a winner, and now the fiery, aggressive leader of their football team.

You can say all you want about his awkward delivery and what you see as a lack of accuracy, but I would counter that this is not Frank Costa, Josh Heupel or Danny Weurfell version 2 that we're looking at. And if I'm wrong- well I'm wrong. And I don't think that I am. Nor do I think that I'm wrong about Christian Ponder, who I think will become a very good NFL Quarterback. My prediction for Tim Tebow's performance today:

275 yards passing
2 pass TDs
1 rush TD
game MVP
Broncos win game
crowd cheers more for Tebow than any other player on the field
1st start for Tebow in a long, productive carrer as an NFL QB

I don't give a rats behind what he did in college games. Those don't count in the NFL. If they did, Timmy Chang would be all-world.

Currently in the NFL, he is 45 of 92. Not even 50% completion rate, and his playing time has been in garbage time.
When he misses, which is more than 5 times out of 10, he misses by 10's of yards.

The rest is just talk. his mechanics and delivery can all be overcome, and maybe it will lead to accuracy...maybe. But, at this point, his accuracy really sucks. Not just a little, but extreme accuracy issues!!!

Hell, Chad Henne is over 60% completion rate.

Even the turnover machine Mark Dirty Snatcho is at 54%... and both these are not coming at garbage time as Tebow's are.

I have seen a fair amount of Tebow already in a Donko uniform (Not sure why, but they sure like to show Donko games here in Dallas) and what amazed me is not that he missed so many, but by how far he missed. Tens of yards is NOT a good sign
 
Well today he is going to be hot good, Dolphins made everyone look good.
 
Tebow should play for the SAINTS with Pope, Monk, Fryar, Priest, Bishop, Nunn, Iglesias, Moses, Abraham, Christian, Christianson, Cross, Noble, Goode, McBride, Prude, Hope, Polite, Parrish, Purify, St. Pierre, Moorman, Godfrey, Sheppard and Saint ;-)
 
I hated Tebow in college because I'm a Canes supporter and hate ANYTHING Gator related. ( Pouncy gets a pass)
In the pro I wish him well but as noted his accuracy and over all passing skills are not that of a NFL starter. He gets by with his heart and legs. That just does not work for long in the big show.
I would not be supprised if he runs for a couple TD's today but I think his passing will be his undoing today and the Fins finally win a game.
 
I don't give a rats behind what he did in college games. Those don't count in the NFL. If they did, Timmy Chang would be all-world.

Currently in the NFL, he is 45 of 92. Not even 50% completion rate, and his playing time has been in garbage time.
When he misses, which is more than 5 times out of 10, he misses by 10's of yards.

The rest is just talk. his mechanics and delivery can all be overcome, and maybe it will lead to accuracy...maybe. But, at this point, his accuracy really sucks. Not just a little, but extreme accuracy issues!!!

Hell, Chad Henne is over 60% completion rate.

Even the turnover machine Mark Dirty Snatcho is at 54%... and both these are not coming at garbage time as Tebow's are.

I have seen a fair amount of Tebow already in a Donko uniform (Not sure why, but they sure like to show Donko games here in Dallas) and what amazed me is not that he missed so many, but by how far he missed. Tens of yards is NOT a good sign

I've seen Tebow throw enough spot on passes with zip to know that his arm is good enough. You think that his arm sucks- so be it. It's the same old thing- his arm isn't great, nor is his accuracy, but are they good enough, when combined with all of the other elite qualities that he brings to the table to make him a very good QB?

I think so, and we'll get a preview today. 275 yards, 2pass TD, 1 rush TD, game MVP, Broncos win.

I love a QB with a strong, accurate arm and a quick release. Marino and Elway when they came out of college were just superlative. I absolutely loved Stafford from the first time I saw him play for UG. I saw Marino and Kosar, among others, play at the Orange Bowl/JRS whatever it's called now. They were both deadly accurate, and Marino's release was ridiculous. Sam Bradford is deadly accurate. Drew Brees, too, and I think that Christian Ponder will be added to that list. I'm not floored by Andrew Luck's arm- it's a very good arm, don't get me wrong, but not in Elway's or Marino's league imo. He has somewhat of a slow delivery, more like Jim Kelly imo. And granted Kelly is a Hall of Famer- I'm not trying to be overly critical of Luck, I'm just commenting relative to his buzz and scouting asessments being just about the highest anyone's ever seen. What is beyond hype and criticism is his efficiency- something like 35 of 35 scores in the red zone and 20 TDs? That's pretty amazing.

The point is- being a fan of Tebow, for the most part, goes against the grain of what I like in a QB, particularly in his case the slow/awkward delivery and accuracy issues. And for the umpteenth time I'm not a Gators fan- but you watch the guy play and he just brings it. Forget Timmy Chang, Colt Brennan, whoever else you want to bring up in terms of college play- you have to judge the college work by not only the numbers but the quality within the numbers- any jackass can throw for 300 yars in college if he's playing against a slow, horrid defense. When I watched Tebow in college I was always thinking, how does this translate? Case in point Matt Moore- I've been a mild supporter of his despite the Jets debacle, but one throw stood out to me: the red zone out pass to Marshall in the corner of the left end zone. Damn ball took forever to get there. Revis got a hand on it. Compare that pass to the absolute darts that Brady threw at the goal line against us in the 1st game- those passes were ludicrous. I saw the Notre Dame QB yesterday throw an out that made me take notice- the guy just rifled it to the left flat, on target. That's an important throw for a NFL QB or a college one who wants to be a pro QB. But he blew away Matt Moore with that type of throw.

Tebow in some ways doesn't add up, with the delivery/accuracy issues, but when he's on the field he makes it happen. He's a playmaker and a winner. HIs arm is solid enough to get the job done, and I will say that normally I'm harshly critical of QBs with subpar arms (I'm starting to waver on Moore's arm- I like some things, but the dude's arm strength is questionable, as I'm finding out. Worse than I thought.)

275 yards
2 pass TD
1 rushTD
game MVP
Broncos win.

We'll see what happens in a bit.
 
I am not a Tebow fan but this is shaping up to be his comiing out party......going against a 30th rank D that hasnt stopped anyone and cant get turnovers......Ross is about to get what he deserves.......how do you set up a party for a QB on another team that never played for you? Well he sold the tickets he wanted to sell lets see if he lashes out and starts firiing coaches after this game is over........
 
Just checked the box score. Timmy has more yds rushing than passing. Surprise?

Why do you think the donkeys traded Lloyd and had Royal on the block? Simple; to justify having a FB/H-back as a QB.
 
SMH.... why do groupies get so blinded about a players talent, these Tebow groupies are worse than Michael Jackson groupies. Tebow is NOT a QB, when they finally submit to the truth he will have a quality career, if not it will be N.F.L. ( Not for long ) for him to be out of the league.
 
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