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Ted Ginn compared to Steve Smith (first two seasons)

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Wow just doing a little research on Ted Ginn Jr in comparison to Carolina stud receiver Steve Smith and I notice some striking similairities in there first two years in the NFL. First, Steve is 5'9 @ 185 and 30 years old, Ted is 5'11 @ 180 and 24 years old. Steve's first year 10 rec for 154 yds 0 tds, and Ted's first year 34 rec for 420 yds 2 tds. Steve's second year 54 rec for 872 yds 3 tds, and Ted's second year 56 rec for 790 2 tds. Now Steve's third year is wear we see a big jump 88 rec for 1,110 yds 7 tds. Ted Ginn's third year.......... remains to be seen (and there are more comparisons like speed etc.). I'm not sure if anyone has ever compared the two and posted it, so if it has sorry. Interesting ???
 
One area there is no comparison. Smith has Cajones.
 
the day ginn is compared to smith is when he takes a hit like a man, but he needs to bulk up though, because ted is right no cajones
 
to be more accurate devon bess is more compared to smith, pretty sure if bess was given the chance he would have the same numbers smith got in his first 2 years, in the long run it will be ginn the odd man out, bess is doing more for the team than ginn
 
I wouldn't say Ginn doesn't have "cajones". I've seen him go over the middle and take some hits and most importantly hold on to the ball. There's a difference between being scared and playing smart. I think Ginn does the latter. If he can evade a big hit that's good for him and us. I rather him have a full healthy season than get injured because he had to look for contact to prove his manhood.
 
You're right D. I see Ginn as being out the door at the end of his rookie contract if he doesn't pick it up. Bess is clearly the better player and Hartline and Turner are showing a lot of promise in TC. Let's see how they develop over the season.
 
Ginn took some hits and held on to the ball. He got right up after getting smacked on the last play here, and went to the hitters face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35fxXOXBrA8

^^^ Maybe you need to watch that again.

He sure played with balls in week 17 against the Jets too with him coming back in double coverage on a long bomb fleaflicker that should have been intercepted.

Going through the entire Oakland defense on an end around for a long TD.

I can go on and on.

Bess is not fast enough to get around the edge like that on the 2 TD's Ginn scored on end arounds last year. If Ginn didn't score those TD's the team would have lost both games as one was won by 3 points, and the other won by only 2 points.

Ginn runs a 4.3, Bess runs a 4.7, so Bess can't do those end arounds and take it to the house like that.

There is a good reason why Ginn got double coverage attention last year and Bess didn't. Because Ginn is the more talented player and can do things Bess just can't do.

What Bess is good at is getting to the open spots because defenders were much more worried about players like Ginn, Brown and Williams coming out of the backfield, and the tight ends as they know Penny likes his TE's. There was just very little attention defenses gave to Bess, that's why he looked wide open on most of his catches.

If you gave Ginn all that open space when Bess caught the ball, Ginn has 1200 yards receiving last year... Because with Ginn it's going to the house with all that open real estate around him.
 
GrandMaster D said:
the day ginn is compared to smith is when he takes a hit like a man, but he needs to bulk up though, because ted is right no cajones
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Marvin Harrison always avoided the big hit when possible, and he seemed to do just fine with his career....
 
Let's also not forget that Steve Smith's "cajones" have consistently got him in trouble, most recently when he cracked a teammates eye socket with a vicious punch. He is not so loved in Charlotte as you might think as a lot of people on talk radio called for the Panthers to release him because of the fights and problems. He is just as me-first as TO or OchoCinco but doesn't get the publicity...he is a real thug, not a poseur. His talent is beyond question but at what cost. T. Ginn is a team player and fits our system well, he will excel this year.
 
Locke said:
Marvin Harrison always avoided the big hit when possible, and he seemed to do just fine with his career....
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yeah but he was not as fast as ginn, as fast as ginn is he should be giong over the middle and take off once he catches the ball
 
Phinstrodamus said:
Wow just doing a little research on Ted Ginn Jr in comparison to Carolina stud receiver Steve Smith and I notice some striking similairities in there first two years in the NFL. First, Steve is 5'9 @ 185 and 30 years old, Ted is 5'11 @ 180 and 24 years old. Steve's first year 10 rec for 154 yds 0 tds, and Ted's first year 34 rec for 420 yds 2 tds. Steve's second year 54 rec for 872 yds 3 tds, and Ted's second year 56 rec for 790 2 tds. Now Steve's third year is wear we see a big jump 88 rec for 1,110 yds 7 tds. Ted Ginn's third year.......... remains to be seen (and there are more comparisons like speed etc.). I'm not sure if anyone has ever compared the two and posted it, so if it has sorry. Interesting ???
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The problem is that we are comparing the 11th pick in the draft to, what was Smith, a 3rd or 4th rounder? Steve Smith has exceeded every expectation of him...Ginn is barely meeting expectations of a first round pick (and I think I am being generous).
 
We are comparing him because he has showed he is a pro bowl WR.
I hate when people throw where a guy was drafted to show anything.
Once they are drafted I dont care what order they were in I just want the guy to perform. The fact that Ginn went so high and Bess did not get drafted means nothing to me.
I dont expect more out of Ginn and less of Bess.
 
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