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Ted Ginn ran a 4.06 40?

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This one is hard to believe, but here it is:

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Ted Ginn Jr. has been a major contributor as a receiver and return specialist for the past three years at Ohio State. Ginn is a thinly-built receiver with reliable hands and tremendous speed for the position (OSU claims to have clocked him at 4.06 in the spring). His speed allows him to gain separation on just about any defensive back who lines up against him. Once he has the ball in his hands, Ginn is a threat to score from anywhere on the field. He is an elusive runner in the open field who excels at getting yards after the catch. He is also an explosive return specialist who can take it the distance on both punt and kick returns. Ginn isn’t a very physical receiver. He lacks ideal size and strength for the position. He doesn’t break many tackles and he isn’t a great blocker. He will drop catchable passes at times and he needs to improve his route running to become a more complete receiver. Ted Ginn Jr. is not a finished product; however, his potential to become a gamebreaker as both a receiver and return specialist cannot be ignored. How high he will be drafted may depend on his combine performance. He should be a first round pick in the 2007 NFL draft.
http://www.ontheclockdraft.com/Ted_Ginn/1811

Here's their mock draft posted 1/22:

http://www.ontheclockdraft.com/mock
 
Probably more like a 4.3

I remember when people said Michael Vick ran a 4.15 and Marcus was faster :rolleyes:

They always clock players faster than they are, but hey if he runs that at the combine I'll believe it.
 
If he ran a genuine 4.06 40 he won't get drafted, he'll make a fortune running track.
 
If he is so fast and can get so much separation, why didn't he tear it up in college? His numbers were pretty good, but for the hype this guy has, they should be a lot more impressive. Its only gonna get harder for him in the pros...I don't want him.
 
The 4.06 was also reported by the New York Daily News
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/486122p-409271c.html
Ginn, a high school national champion in the 110 high hurdles, was clocked in an obscenely fast 4.06 for the 40-yard dash during spring practice. He caught 59 passes for 781 yards and nine touchdowns this season, scored on a punt return and even threw a 38-yard touchdown pass against Indiana, helping Ohio State further evolve from a plodding, conservative offense into a high-tech operation that is averaging 36.3 points.
 
If he is so fast and can get so much separation, why didn't he tear it up in college? His numbers were pretty good, but for the hype this guy has, they should be a lot more impressive. Its only gonna get harder for him in the pros...I don't want him.

It's called double coverage, playing only half to 3/4 of games and being in a balanced offense. It could also be that he is still learning how to be a wr.
 
If he ran a genuine 4.06 40 he won't get drafted, he'll make a fortune running track.

His NFL signing bonus will be more than an entire career running track could ever produce.
 
If he is so fast and can get so much separation, why didn't he tear it up in college? His numbers were pretty good, but for the hype this guy has, they should be a lot more impressive. Its only gonna get harder for him in the pros...I don't want him.
he's not fully developed at the position yet. and the team has other options, too, so just giving the ball to one guy all the time would go against their philosophy.
 
This one is hard to believe, but here it is:

Analysis


Ted Ginn Jr. has been a major contributor as a receiver and return specialist for the past three years at Ohio State. Ginn is a thinly-built receiver with reliable hands and tremendous speed for the position (OSU claims to have clocked him at 4.06 in the spring). His speed allows him to gain separation on just about any defensive back who lines up against him. Once he has the ball in his hands, Ginn is a threat to score from anywhere on the field. He is an elusive runner in the open field who excels at getting yards after the catch. He is also an explosive return specialist who can take it the distance on both punt and kick returns. Ginn isn’t a very physical receiver. He lacks ideal size and strength for the position. He doesn’t break many tackles and he isn’t a great blocker. He will drop catchable passes at times and he needs to improve his route running to become a more complete receiver. Ted Ginn Jr. is not a finished product; however, his potential to become a gamebreaker as both a receiver and return specialist cannot be ignored. How high he will be drafted may depend on his combine performance. He should be a first round pick in the 2007 NFL draft.
http://www.ontheclockdraft.com/Ted_Ginn/1811

Here's their mock draft posted 1/22:

http://www.ontheclockdraft.com/mock

Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash

You can't really trust those hand timed runs ... they're not scientific. You have to wait until they do the electronically timed runs at the combine where everyone runs under the same conditions ... that is, if they actually do agree to do it. One way or another, whether it's made public or not, Ted Ginn will probably have his 40 timed electronically by some team. I bet he's running in the high 4.2 - low 4.3 range if he does it electronically.

Check this quote out about Ben Johnson ... who has the world record for the 100 meter dash:

"However, in track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.2-0.3 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, which automatically triggers the clock. This difference would indicate that, at peak form, Johnson more likely ran the 40 yard dash in 4.08-4.18 seconds, making claims in the 4.2-range more credible."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash
 
Im not sure about Ginn

I keep thinking this kid sat out in the biggest game of his career yet. During the national championship he hurt his ankle and never came back in the game. Were talkin abou the National Championship. It gets me to thinking, I dont wanna go to war with a guy like that. I mean with speed receivers there the first to wanna sit when something is wrong. He hurt his ankle.. cmon.. man.. u gotta get back in the game.. Can you just imagine somone doing that in a superbowl game?
 
It's called double coverage, playing only half to 3/4 of games and being in a balanced offense. It could also be that he is still learning how to be a wr.

no one played double coverage against Ohio Stte because they spent most of their time in 4 wide sets this season, and even when they ran 2 wide, Ginn wasn't double covered; both safeties were always deep to stop him and Gonzo from getting YAC, but they never double covered.

Come to think of it, only 2 Buckeye WRs have been double covered with Jim Tressell as coach;Mike Jenkins and Santonio Holmes
 
It's already been mentioned, but you can't trust the hand-timed 40's. The difference between a 4.06 and a 4.60 is miniscule when you have a guy timing it by hand, really. I think he'll run about a 4.3 flat at the combine.
 
no one played double coverage against Ohio Stte because they spent most of their time in 4 wide sets this season, and even when they ran 2 wide, Ginn wasn't double covered; both safeties were always deep to stop him and Gonzo from getting YAC, but they never double covered.

Come to think of it, only 2 Buckeye WRs have been double covered with Jim Tressell as coach;Mike Jenkins and Santonio Holmes
No one played doubled coverage against Ohio State? If you say so.
 
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