Tempest in an Aquarium

[donshula72]

The media down here is very negative (i.e ronnie brown hater greg cote, etc). Saban is protecting his players and the franchise from people who are usually wrong and always negative.

 

[Agua]

Love that site in your signature.

 

[FinNasty]

So then, I guess you're upset because you don't have a very good "us of vocabulary"? "arnt" you?

Perhaps before you make fun of someone who has a better command of the English language than you do, you should think about what you're doing first... :shakeno:

It was just a joke ... He just sounded like a writer but I didnt actually think he was a sports writer

 

[LarryFinFan]

While you make good points in general, keep in mind that the press' job is to sell newspapers, not to dole out the facts or non-facts to us, the fans. I could care less whether Salguero likes or dislikes the way Saban runs his team, but, as you stated, I still want as many facts as possible. The real issue is that Saban is so very young in his tenure, that we really don't know exactly what to expect from him. I, as will many others, be quite satisfied if his methods of operating the team equate to victories and SBs...However, Saban needs to, and probably knows, that if his methods do not equate to wins, there will be public backlash. How much this really would affect him or his way of running things is uncertain. Whether a public backlash would have any affect on the team's management is doubtful as long as Mr. H is still signing the checks and not the fans...So, observe, speculate, mandate, complain...it doesn't matter what you and I think or feel about the state of the Fins. The press has nothing to do with it either...

 

[NaboCane]

Nabo is a true fan and great guy.

Thanks dude. It's nice to know that there can still be disagreement without hostility.

And thanks, AJ, for the statement.

I appreciate everyone's comments as well.

One thing to keep in mind, is that whether you talk about a government or a corporate entity - one required by the league to maintain a degree of openness to the press and its fans, BTW - when you begin to abridge the freedom of the press, you defy one of the core founding principles of our nation. And as an adult, given the choice between an abridgment of information or complete access, I'll always choose complete access and make my own decisions about what's true and what's not.

Another thing is that the main issue regarding the reporting during the Wannstedt administration was not too much information, but not enough, as we discovered as reports of incidents leaked out subsequent to his departure.

 

[NaboCane]

While you make good points in general, keep in mind that the press' job is to sell newspapers, not to dole out the facts or non-facts to us, the fans. I could care less whether Salguero likes or dislikes the way Saban runs his team, but, as you stated, I still want as many facts as possible...

That is a truly excellent point, Larry. That fact probably accounts for the shift in public opinion towards demonification of the press.

But what if we made the public aware that there was a time when the news was reported as a sacred duty to the populace; when everything wasn't corrupted by the profit motive - more accurately, the motive to make the most money regardless of method or result.

And what if that public dictated a paradigm shift bt watching only the news presented fairly and honestly; what if we only bought the newspapers and magazines that provided an honest product, and disdained the rags that capitalize on our worst and basest instincts?

 

[#13]

True loyalty to the team would dictate an abiding desire to have every bit of news about the team that can possibly be available, except where it functions to the detriment of the team.

No.

 

[LostInPatsLand]

One thing to keep in mind, is that whether you talk about a government or a corporate entity - one required by the league to maintain a degree of openness to the press and its fans, BTW - when you begin to abridge the freedom of the press, you defy one of the core founding principles of our nation. And as an adult, given the choice between an abridgment of information or complete access, I'll always choose complete access and make my own decisions about what's true and what's not.

I don't think our founding fathers intended freedom of the press to mean an unconditional open flow of information among privately-owned sports teams, the press, and a small minority of fans.

 

[rhadaddy]

I hear ya but...

Another thing is that the main issue regarding the reporting during the Wannstedt administration was not too much information, but not enough, as we discovered as reports of incidents leaked out subsequent to his departure.

As pointed out earlier, the Miami media has been biased and damaging to this team.

In fact listening to Sports Radio up here in NJ, 1050 ESPN was interviewing either Howard David or Jim Mandich shortly after Dave quit, and He intimated that an "unmentioned" Miami Journalist, not only had an agenda against DW but also had the influence of HWH.

Essentially saying that HWH wash pushed... to push DW out by that unammed beat writer.

In hindsight that may be a good thing... because of the Saban aquisition, however, it's sick to even think a beat writer has that kind of influence to sabatoge someone's career.

It's will suck not having our annual training camp reports. However it's great knowing that teams, for the most part will not know what to expect from us week in and week out, information when it does come out is coming from one voice, and most importantly injury information will not be leaked.

 

[Agua]

Another thing is that the main issue regarding the reporting during the Wannstedt administration was not too much information, but not enough, as we discovered as reports of incidents leaked out subsequent to his departure.

The the public needs to know this while it's going on, why? I can't think of much MORE detrimental to a team than the uproar that would arise from that sort of info being broadcast and beaten to death publicly while it's going on.

To the writers' credit, they did sit on that one until Wanny was out, for the most part, but I don't see how you think that is something that would not be detrimental to the team which was, in your own initial post, one of the benchmarks regarding access.

 

[BSQX4]

Aqua said it so well that my post will be a short one. Bottom line: the media ripped the team all last year from pre season all the way through to the end. Saban won't give them the chance to do it again under his watch and I admire him for it.