Ten Thoughts on First Half of Panthers Preseason Game

[ckparrothead]

Your not a fan of reggie bush because of how his career has went so far in new orleans but what you dont seem to understand new orleans was a bad fit for reggie from the start, a top Draft guru like yourself should have known reggie would flourish in a system like miamis. New orleans does everything around brees, pass first offense, pierre ahead of bush, and just never commited to reggie as there "featured back" in the first place, he was mainly used as a decoy in the passing and a return man. As long as you admit you were "wrong" about reggie than its a good analysis.

Teach me, great master.

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I thought Gates did everything he was asked to do and actually had a good game. He was better than OK. If he was given accurate deep balls, you would be singing a different tune about him playing, "OK".

Nah. Sticking with "just OK". Didn't see the second half yet, though.

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

We're in complete agreement on Colombo. You'd be hard pressed to find me a worse offensive lineman for any team in the NFL. The "garbage" term gets thrown around a lot to describe unsatisfactory players.... However, it's absolutely fitting for Colombo. This is the worst offensive lineman I've ever seen in a Miami uniform, and that's saying something.


Completely disagree that Reggie Bush needed that little block in the back by Marshall to gain the yards he gained on that play. I wouldn't even consider it a block, he just shoved the guy in the back unnecessarily. Reggie was getting what he was getting regardless of that unnecessary block in the back. It's just more of the same from Marshall the moron. It's what he does.

Similar to Colombo, that might be the worst "analysis" I've ever seen.

 

[jsizzle]

excellent, perfect analysis! They grow them smart in Tampa!

 

[ckparrothead]

We're in complete agreement on Colombo. You'd be hard pressed to find me a worse offensive lineman for any team in the NFL. The "garbage" term gets thrown around a lot to describe unsatisfactory players.... However, it's absolutely fitting for Colombo. This is the worst offensive lineman I've ever seen in a Miami uniform, and that's saying something.


Completely disagree that Reggie Bush needed that little block in the back by Marshall to gain the yards he gained on that play. I wouldn't even consider it a block, he just shoved the guy in the back unnecessarily. Reggie was getting what he was getting regardless of that unnecessary block in the back. It's just more of the same from Marshall the moron. It's what he does.

Similar to Colombo, that might be the worst "analysis" I've ever seen.

YIKES!!! LOL.

But I agree, he's terrible. I don't know if he's the worst I've ever seen but then again I'm hard pressed to think of a guy off hand that I can say oh yeah that guy was definitely way worse. I just don't get it.

As for the worst analysis you've ever seen, so be it. I watched the play front and back, I think Reggie needed that block in order to spring 28 on the play. And I sure as hell didn't like how he farted around on the play stutter stepping everywhere instead of playing decisively.

 

[MarshallFin1]

YIKES!!! LOL.

But I agree, he's terrible. I don't know if he's the worst I've ever seen but then again I'm hard pressed to think of a guy off hand that I can say oh yeah that guy was definitely way worse. I just don't get it.

As for the worst analysis you've ever seen, so be it. I watched the play front and back, I think Reggie needed that block in order to spring 28 on the play. And I sure as hell didn't like how he farted around on the play stutter stepping everywhere instead of playing decisively.

lol you cant be serious, how is he suppose to juke defenders out by not? do you expect him to run in a straight line right into the defenders??? /facepalm

 

[finfan54]

I saw progression, regardless of no real pass rush, but excellent coverage by LB's. I saw conversion of third and longs and overcoming penalties that set us back and controlling the clock for an eternity. REgardless of some individual bad blocking by columbo, I saw success in run and pass and that the passing game opens up lanes, even if they are on the backside. I wonder sometimes about when analyzing teams that beat us that way, do we hear this? Not likely. Great defenses cover all holes in run game.

I saw plays left out there as well, but I also saw Henne after the game ackknowledge it without being prompted to by reporter. That to me says, this is second preseason game with this new offense and showing progressions. I see 4 good WR's with another in the bullpen. I see Daniel Thomas making some nice moves for a rookie behind our so-called half crappy OLine. So, yes it was Carolina. Next is Tampa with Tampa looking to rebound a little after being shown the door by pats. Interesting to see if our O is successful vs. Tampa because we also run spread.

 

[hoops]

i disagree with ck about pouncey...i've watched the first half multiple times and outside of the goalline when admittedly he got overpowered on the first drive vs fua he was moving fua like he was on skates pretty much the rest of the time...fua reminded me of solia in some ways when he first came in the league...a play here or there and then on skates...pouncey needs to get stronger there's no doubt about that...and fuas nothing to get excited about but other than the first goalline drive i think pouncey graded out fine...pouncey over high end noses especially til he gets stronger is gonna be an adventure though...no doubt

incognito doesn't even get around the center and squared back up cause he's so damn slow when we ask him to pull...its a joke he's playin left guard...he kills the run to the right side when asked to pull...incog also on the screen pass where bush gets blown up is the first lineman out the shoot no contact with any dlineman he flows out wide and doesn't get his head around and pickup the lb flowing up from the inside and pouncey can't get there in time cause he's actually flowing thru traffic and bush gets decleated after the catch...if incog takes that inside man and cuts him and lets pouncey and carey get downfield thats a big play...instead he shows the same awful awareness he's always shown

careys slow when pulling...first run of the game he dives cause he's late and misses the guy shooting the gap for the tackle...he's got to get some more foot quickness and fire off the ball better

the first holding call on the first td drive on murtha was garbage...the play was well in front of the los and murtha shoved the de forward pushing him and they called it...garbage

how the hell do the panthers start 230 lb eric norwood at de in a 4-3...i mean teams have got to attack that...fasano was handling him turning him in the run game...thats a joke

colombos gonna get destroyed by speed off the edge when he sees some real explosive first step quickness...dudes way too much of a waist bender...knees and legs are shot

 

[X-Pacolypse]

Spot on analysis.

 

[ANUFan]

Ouch, CK you confirmed something i wrote in another post about Henne. First a spread the field formation clearly seems to be the best thing for him! The only problem is there are certain types of throws he is unwilling to make! Thus it makes reading him and subsequently defending him easier in terms of probability and worst it bottles the full range of exploits the offense can muster on the field...arrrgggghhhhh!

 

[jphandal]

hanks coach...good post but one observation i know most of us are coaches or ex nfl players (sarcasm) but usually it dawns on me that we just playt way too much madden and its not real life....I mean if you arent a former NFL player, not peewee or division8 NCAA u have no authority to make these types of analysis, i rather have the Henne sucks, or Sparano blows threads that are simple fan opinions than fans disecting every play like if they where friggin John Madden not just playing MAdden for 10 yrs. Sorry dude but talking about Gates and the safety bs was too much. Too in depth bs analysis..just my two cents, and CK i am actually a big fan of your posts just not this one.

 

[AphexPhin]

Excellent write up ckparrothead! I'll be looking foward to your analysis thru out the season.

 

[hoops]

and i disagree on the marshall block in the back call...the db is flowing on his own inside as bush is coming downhill bush doesn't need a marshall block in the back to make a lateral cut and beat that guy to the corner...some guys may need it but reggie bush does not...thats just a totally unnecessary boneheaded dbs not even turning but flowing inside brain fart by brandon marshall...push a guy in his back with reggie bush coming downhill and no outside contain..lex hilliard yeah i can see him needing the help but not reggie bush

i've been saying all along that outside of cam wake there's not a one on one pass rush winner on this roster...koa misi might as well just drop on every snap...he's a one trick pony bull rush or nothing and guys are just sittin on it...has he even sniffed a sack in camp...waste of a top 40 pick...i can find a guy who can change direction flow into the flats and drop into a soft zone while providing some edge setting outside of the top 2 rounds...jason taylor can't defeat guys with his tools off the snap any more...we're gonna have to devise ways to get him free looks like overload blitzes and sending him late if we think he's gonna provide pass rush...use him a lot like the jets did...scheme devised pressure...he's gonna 2 step with nfl tackles all season otherwise...jason trusnick...i can find guys in my gym with better tools than him...high motor but going nowhere...

gonna put a ton of pressure on our lbs and secondary in coverage cause of all the blitzing were gonna have to do to create pressure...its cam wake and no one else once again...at least when we send burnett on the blitz he's gonna be productive with his instincts and nose for the ball...

and so much pulling on the goalline with lineman who can't pull...color me not enthused

 

[Mr. Magoo]

We're in complete agreement on Colombo. You'd be hard pressed to find me a worse offensive lineman for any team in the NFL. The "garbage" term gets thrown around a lot to describe unsatisfactory players.... However, it's absolutely fitting for Colombo. This is the worst offensive lineman I've ever seen in a Miami uniform, and that's saying something.


Completely disagree that Reggie Bush needed that little block in the back by Marshall to gain the yards he gained on that play. I wouldn't even consider it a block, he just shoved the guy in the back unnecessarily. Reggie was getting what he was getting regardless of that unnecessary block in the back. It's just more of the same from Marshall the moron. It's what he does.

Similar to Colombo, that might be the worst "analysis" I've ever seen.

And here I thought Jeff Buckey's legacy would never be threatened.

 

[PhinSoldia]

egos are fed on finheaven even for the wrong things

 

[SRM]

I'm wondering if Starks will be dealt for a pass rusher..

perhaps Nolan did all those overload blitzes to see if we can get away with only having Wake. IMO, no.. we can't. We got the pressure but we can't overload everytime.