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The bad news: The Dolphins might rally the final four games

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I do not agree with Armando much, or should I say most of the time, but I agree on this one. If we win three of our last four(and I do think we are going to win on Monday night), we will end up at 8-8. The same place, or there about, we have been for the last 16yrs. As he states we will be picking in the mid rds. of the draft and I have no confidence that Tannenbaum, he is our GM - Hickey is just a puppet, will make sound decisions in the draft. Ross will be advised by the idiot to throw money at a guy that that does not deserve anywhere near the contract they propose i.e. Ryan Tannehill. So it will be back to hopping on the hamster wheel that leads to nowhere.
After the New England Patriots finished off the Houston Texans Sunday night, clinching a playoff spot, NBC's Al Michaels explained the Patriots can also clinch their 12th AFC East title in 13 years Monday night, but only if the Miami Dolphins lose to the New York Giants.

"Not that the Dolphins have a chance" to win the division, Michaels said. But the math simply works out that another Miami loss hands the division to the Pats.
And that is the point here. The Dolphins do not have a chance to win the AFC East.
Again.
The Dolphins have only an outside mathematical chance to make the playoffs as a wild card, although miracles would need to be weaved in South Florida, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Kansas City, New York and perhaps other NFL home cities for that to happen.
The only legitimate chance the Dolphins have of reaching some semblance of respectability this season is winning maybe three of their final four games to salvage an 8-8 season.
Great.
And you know what that would get Miami?
A lower draft pick.
The fact of the matter is the Dolphins are currently out of the top 10 in the draft order. That order is currently:

  1. Tennessee
  2. Sand Diego
  3. Cleveland
  4. Baltomore
  5. Detroit
  6. San Francisco
  7. Dallas
  8. Jacksonville
  9. New Orleans
  10. Chicago
So the Dolphins wouldn't be relevant enough to get in the playoffs. And they wouldn't be bad enough to get a high draft pick.
They would be were they have been so often the past decade or so --a mediocre team in a mediocre draft spot. Neither good enough to be celebrated nor bad enough to draft elite talent and make a quick climb to something much, much better down the road.
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Hell, we all saw what happened last season when they rallied to beat a weak Minnesota team at home. Ross got a huge boner and guaranteed Philbin would be back this season. Similar to how Wayne Huizenga gave Dave Wannstedt a reprieve for 2004 at the very end of the '03 season, because, even though the team choked away another playoff spot down the stretch, they beat the Jets and Bills to close the season. Wanny was canned during the '04 season just like Philbin was this season.

If they beat the Giants in impressive fashion tomorrow, I am afraid Ross might make Campbell the permanent head coach on the spot, give Tannenbaum an extension, and throw out Tannehill's new contract and sign him to an even larger, longer term one.

I honestly wish they would just lose out at this point. I am so disenfranchised that I couldn't give two ****s about the rest of this season. People here love to be all "how could you ever hope this team loses?", but no one is going to remember or give a crap about any of these remaining games in a month anyway. That little smidge of a chance of a playoff berth if they win out when that margin is smaller than a gnat's taint doesn't do anything for me, either. If by some miracle they did win out and make it in, there would just be another embarrassing loss in the first round.

The team needs legit players. I don't have a ton of confidence in Tannenbaum, but the odds of them getting a good player seem higher with a better draft position. Yeah, I know, Vernon Gholston and such. Oh well.
 
This team was done the day this idiot Ross, extended Philbins contract after a "lucky" win against a bad minnesota team. Like many posters have written, the season was over after the Washington game, and honestly this is the earliest we have been totally irrelevant, because who we lost to (everyone in the division) and the manner we lost i.e, blow outs........this team is far from contending, really think they need to blow it up and start from scratch, you may have at most 2 to 4 quality players on defense, and maybe 2 to 4 on offense........the whole coaching staff has to be replaced.....and GM and player personnel directors are hideous...........and we already know the owner is clueless......unfortunately for the young dolphin fans, who never experienced what it was to be a fan in the 70's and 80's.........we are at least half a decade away from being revelant........

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Relevant.....
 
Some FH posters seem totally and permanently obsessed by the prospect of high Draft picks. The selection of Dion Jordan (overall #3 player drafted) a few years ago should serve as a reminder that there is no guarantee that a high Draft pick will be successful. Let's see what the team can do before rooting for the team to lose just to get a higher Draft pick. I'm old school and want to see the team win.
 
If we go 8-8, that means that Dan Campbell went 7-5 (he inherited a 1-3 record).

Personally, I'd rather build a culture of winning, than a culture of "losing for draft picks".
 
If we go 8-8 its the most meaningless 8-8 in history. this is a 6-10 team that needs all the help it can including the best (highest) draft picks it can get

Campbell has done a good job with not a lot of talent. But its time to clean it out and start over with a real offensive minded coach
 
I hate us losing. But I dont know whats worse....losing the last two games to blow a playoff chance, or winning the last few games to salvage a ****ty season and dropping 6 places in the draft.

After this years rubbish, and I said it before, I would rather us lose out because the playoffs are gone, and get better draft picks all the way through next years draft than finish 8-8 or 7-9 and drop down the draft order.
 
How many superbowls did Ronnie Brown and Jake Long get Miami? How about Jordan, how'd he do for a top 3 pick?
 
Building a culture of winning should be most appetizing for us fans. Look at the panthers from last year as a true indicator of what happens when you start winning. It's contagious. The issue in Miami has been culture. You want the hottest named coach out there and hope he turns it around, but culture is everything. If Dan Campbell can help lead Miami to 5 straight victories, it will win back the fans hearts. It will allow Miami to restructure players and add good players. It will also probably indicate that tannehill is the answer, which isthe ultimate answer we are searching for.
 
If we win out, Campbell should be brought back. He takes over a finesse team with terrible schemes and play calling, and posts a winning record. You want to fire him?
I also believe the culture is important too. Having a players coach seems to work with these players.
Bring back Campbell with a 1 year extension and give him the power to decide what assistant coaches he needs and the schemes.
If 2016 doesn't pan out, then blow it up in 2017.
 
Picking later in the draft hurts much more in the second and third round than it does in the first. That being said I just cannot root for the team to lose.


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LANGER72 said:
If we win out, Campbell should be brought back. He takes over a finesse team with terrible schemes and play calling, and posts a winning record. You want to fire him?
I also believe the culture is important too. Having a players coach seems to work with these players.
Bring back Campbell with a 1 year extension and give him the power to decide what assistant coaches he needs and the schemes.
If 2016 doesn't pan out, then blow it up in 2017.
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I would have been more of a fan of bringing him back if they hadn't got steamrolled in every division game they played under him when he took over. I think he's done decent under the circumstances.
 
saw something that said with a win tonight we pick 13th with a loss we pick 9th
 
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