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MikeO

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OK, this is by far the worst of the ESPN "original programing". The Bear Bryant one was just bad. The Bob Knight one was pure garbage, but this one makes those pieces of film look like Godfather 1 and Godfather 2. I understand "artistic leeway" takes place when filming on a subject of real events that really took place. But at some point it goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far. And creates an environment where ESPN loses credibility when doing these things.

I find it hard to believe George Steinbrenner, a multi-millionaire in 1977 had a chair and a couch shaped like a baseball glove in his office.

I find it hard to believe he had the "lead, follow, or get out of the way" sign on his office desk.

I find it very hard to believe that seconds after the 1976 World Series where the Yanks lost to one of the greatest teams in the history of the sports, the Big Red Machine, that George went into the clubhouse stomping mad and told Billy Martin that this was his team now. Nobody gave NY a shot in that series. Heading into Game 4 down 3-0 it should have been no surprise they had lost the series. And George was so upset that they lost he had to go get in Martin's face seconds after the series ended. VERY UNLIKELY!! In fact I would bet my life on him not doing that.

They play Yogi Berra up to be the bumbling fool act. Which yeah that is the public perception of him NOW. But in 1977, some 30 years ago, as a coach on the team, I highly doubt he acted that way.

They want to portray Steinbrenner as OVER THE TOP, I get that. But is there a need to turn him into a total cartoon character?!?? It just dilutes the whole show. And the storyline of the tension beteween Reggie-Billy they have done good. And Reggie-Thurman, that is done pretty well. Not totally horrible. But the over-the-top Steinbrenner potrayal just takes away from the whole show and removes any credibility the series has.

Still 6 more of these shows left. I can only imagine where its going.
 
The Son of Sam storyline does nothing for me either. I mean I understand they want to show what was going on in the summer of '77 in NY but I could care less about that subplot for this show.
 
It's television,,,,rarely are things going to be like reality. Reggie's statement, "I'm the straw that stirs the drink" was taken out of context. I think it is ok that they are showing how NYC was affected by the Son of Sam. They had a lot of serious problems in the city back then. Yeah, Yogi comes across as a dunce and a yes man. I like how they got players who look similar to the actual players (Munson, Rivers, etc.). I am sure George and Billy had many blowups...but the team kept it together when it mattered. There is no way Billy with his huge ears had a woman as hot as the one who plays his wife on the show. :wink:
 
It's television,,,,rarely are things going to be like reality. Reggie's statement, "I'm the straw that stirs the drink" was taken out of context. I think it is ok that they are showing how NYC was affected by the Son of Sam. They had a lot of serious problems in the city back then. Yeah, Yogi comes across as a dunce and a yes man. I like how they got players who look similar to the actual players (Munson, Rivers, etc.). I am sure George and Billy had many blowups...but the team kept it together when it mattered. There is no way Billy with his huge ears had a woman as hot as the one who plays his wife on the show. :wink:

The problem with the Son of Sam storyline is it won't have a big pay off at the end and really has nothing to do with the Yankee team or the main storyline, it's basically a time filler.

I understand it was a big part of NY that year but they're spending way too much time with it.
 
OK, this is by far the worst of the ESPN "original programing". The Bear Bryant one was just bad. The Bob Knight one was pure garbage, but this one makes those pieces of film look like Godfather 1 and Godfather 2. I understand "artistic leeway" takes place when filming on a subject of real events that really took place. But at some point it goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far. And creates an environment where ESPN loses credibility when doing these things.

I find it hard to believe George Steinbrenner, a multi-millionaire in 1977 had a chair and a couch shaped like a baseball glove in his office.

I find it hard to believe he had the "lead, follow, or get out of the way" sign on his office desk.

I find it very hard to believe that seconds after the 1976 World Series where the Yanks lost to one of the greatest teams in the history of the sports, the Big Red Machine, that George went into the clubhouse stomping mad and told Billy Martin that this was his team now. Nobody gave NY a shot in that series. Heading into Game 4 down 3-0 it should have been no surprise they had lost the series. And George was so upset that they lost he had to go get in Martin's face seconds after the series ended. VERY UNLIKELY!! In fact I would bet my life on him not doing that.

They play Yogi Berra up to be the bumbling fool act. Which yeah that is the public perception of him NOW. But in 1977, some 30 years ago, as a coach on the team, I highly doubt he acted that way.

They want to portray Steinbrenner as OVER THE TOP, I get that. But is there a need to turn him into a total cartoon character?!?? It just dilutes the whole show. And the storyline of the tension beteween Reggie-Billy they have done good. And Reggie-Thurman, that is done pretty well. Not totally horrible. But the over-the-top Steinbrenner potrayal just takes away from the whole show and removes any credibility the series has.

Still 6 more of these shows left. I can only imagine where its going.

I spoke with my step-father tonight about this. He's been a Yankee fan since his childhood (early 40's), and he thinks this series has been fantastic so far.
Says Steinbrenner absolutely went down and filleted Martin like that. He also says there's not way to overstate the Boss's personality; he was so absurdly over the top that nothing needs to be made up.
He's not sure about the glove seat, but says so much is right on the money, that it wouldn't surprise him at all.
He is disappointed with how Yogi is being portrayed, though.

Take it fwiw, but he called me just to talk about it how much he liked it. He normally hates watching docu-dramas about things that he lived through, but he can't get enough of this one.
 
I think the show is more accurate than you think MikeO.

It's not.

Aside from the acting being total garbage the potrayls are too cookie cutter
 
am i the only one who thinks the scenes where the actors are at the stadium look way to fake?
 
am i the only one who thinks the scenes where the actors are at the stadium look way to fake?

Tht and the fact they are using equipment from companies that weren't even in business let alone a thought back in 1977
 
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