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I was just sitting here thinking about our winning streak since the cleveland game and i think what started it all imo was when we were down 22-0 and there was maybe a minute left or so and the browns had the ball trying to run the clock out and on a 3rd and 2 they gave cleveland a good spot to get the 1st down you could tell that some of our players just wanted the game to end and just get out of there and saban went crazy and blew up on the refs and you could see the players in the background looking at saban like man this guy is crazy. i think the players took on sabans personality that next game, saban is a mad man and the players are starting to follow. i love it when he goes crazy on the refs its great!
 
i guess its good you can take something from that loss, but IMO, if you had beaten the browns you would have had a shot at the playoffs.

i know many dont believe this next part, but i do not think Gus was injured for that game. IMO, the team accepted the season as lost and wanted to see what the other QB could do. and that, in turn, cost yall the playoffs.
 
ch19079 said:
i guess its good you can take something from that loss, but IMO, if you had beaten the browns you would have had a shot at the playoffs.

i know many dont believe this next part, but i do not think Gus was injured for that game. IMO, the team accepted the season as lost and wanted to see what the other QB could do. and that, in turn, cost yall the playoffs.
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:shakeno: here we go with more pathetic posts.
 
ch19079 said:
i guess its good you can take something from that loss, but IMO, if you had beaten the browns you would have had a shot at the playoffs.

i know many dont believe this next part, but i do not think Gus was injured for that game. IMO, the team accepted the season as lost and wanted to see what the other QB could do. and that, in turn, cost yall the playoffs.
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Your injury theory seems unlikely b/c Gus has been battling that same injury since that game. Also, Saban's philosophy throughout his career and at the beginning of this season would be at odds with the concept of accepting the season as lost. I don't buy your theory that Saban suddenly changed everything he believes in.
 
ch19079 said:
i guess its good you can take something from that loss, but IMO, if you had beaten the browns you would have had a shot at the playoffs.

i know many dont believe this next part, but i do not think Gus was injured for that game. IMO, the team accepted the season as lost and wanted to see what the other QB could do. and that, in turn, cost yall the playoffs.
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The whole time Saban has been here, he's seen Sage as a good back up quarterback, nothing has changed about that. I highly doubt Saban would tank the chance of playoffs to "evaluate" his backup. He even said that he hoped that we would keep the lead in the past weekend's game against the Titans so he would have a chance to evaluate some players. The team went stagnant and it looked like the Titans would put up a fight, so Saban left his regulars in. Now, this is after we're already out of playoff contention, and Saban is still playing the game to win it, there's no way he would have "accepted the season as a lost" when we still had a chance at the division when the team took the field against Cleveland. If Gus was 100% he would've started. In fact, Saban so much more faith in Gus leading this team, that he put him in that game injured. Gus was listed as the emergency QB that game, and Cleo Lemon was the backup. He bypassed Cleo Lemon and went straight to the emergency QB.
 
I think you are all wrong about the 'resurrection' of the Fins...I think perhaps, as everyone agrees, we hit rock bottom in that game, but the philosphy that Saban has been preaching/teaching didn't just start at that point. Just like the "the score doesn't matter" statement made by Saban after the game, that wasn't the 'turning point'...I think as the season has gone along more and more players decided that what he was teaching was the way to go...and that is why we are playing well.

All that said, we better have our best game against the Pats with the way they are playing if we hope to win 6 in a row....

ch...Gus was injured and has a history of concussions which is why he was held out of the game...and I'm not a Gus supporter by any stretch of the imagination...
 
We're a game away from 9-6......that's crazy. But you can't turn back time. I'm glad they came off that big loss in a big way. A Wannstedt team would have folded and probably wouldn't have won a game in December
 
ch19079 said:
i guess its good you can take something from that loss, but IMO, if you had beaten the browns you would have had a shot at the playoffs.

i know many dont believe this next part, but i do not think Gus was injured for that game. IMO, the team accepted the season as lost and wanted to see what the other QB could do. and that, in turn, cost yall the playoffs.
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if your scared say your scared!
 
These Bills fans are something else.
There is no hope for them.
 
fin13 said:
These Bills fans are something else.
There is no hope for them.
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I know. It seems that whenever their season comes to an end(Week 12 or 13 usually), they always start "The Post". When are Buffalo fans going to realize that the screen pass to Thurman Thomas is loooonnnngggg gone. Funny how that is. Good luck with J.P Losman, the "quarterback of the future" according to Mike Mularkey. Irony.
 
ch19079 said:
i guess its good you can take something from that loss, but IMO, if you had beaten the browns you would have had a shot at the playoffs.

i know many dont believe this next part, but i do not think Gus was injured for that game. IMO, the team accepted the season as lost and wanted to see what the other QB could do. and that, in turn, cost yall the playoffs.
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Or the Bills 1st game, or the jets or the Pats !! While we're at it, even the Bucs, Chiefs and falcons as well! ;)
 
ch19079 said:
i guess its good you can take something from that loss, but IMO, if you had beaten the browns you would have had a shot at the playoffs.

i know many dont believe this next part, but i do not think Gus was injured for that game. IMO, the team accepted the season as lost and wanted to see what the other QB could do. and that, in turn, cost yall the playoffs.
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Gus wasn't injured. He was able to throw. The coaching staff admitted that. The issue was he wasn't able to practice ALL WEEK because the swelling didn't come down enough for him to grip the football. I would rather put Sage Rosenfels with all his no experience out there if he'd been practicing all week, than put Gus out there when he hadn't practiced at all that week. And, look what happened. When Gus went in he had as much chance to bring us back as when Sage came in against the Bills. But, instead, Gus was awful. Why was he awful? Cuz he hadn't practiced all week, that's why.

As for the turning point?

When Saban said in his press conference that what is important is figuring out who is going to be here and be part of this team and process and who is not. That made every player wake himself right up and say, cripes...I'm playing for my job. Half the roster was full of new recruits that were saying to themselves, I'm only here on a short deal and I could be gone next year. I don't want to uproot again next year. The other half of the roster was full of old recruits that were saying to themselves, this guy didn't bring me here, this is a new coaching staff and they're using this year to figure out if I'm going to stay or if I should go...and I want to stay, damnit!

You know the old cliche about how a new coaching staff will get rid of all the previous regime's guys and replace them with his own guys? Well, Saban had already ripped up half the roster. The guys that were left over had to be saying to themselves that ANY of us could be next...and the guys that were just brought in had to be saying to themselves, I just had a one year tryout and I'm about to fail it.
 
Even if we won that game wed still be out of it i believe.
 
Jimi said:
Even if we won that game wed still be out of it i believe.
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Yeah I think so. Pittsburgh can go 11-5 next week and we'd have been eliminated even if we beat the Pats this week and went 10-6 with a 3-3 division record and a 8-4 conference record.

Where we screwed up is not beating the Patriots. We had the opportunity. Had we taken that opportunity, we'd be playing for the division title this week.

It also doesn't help that we dropped those STUPID losses to the Bills and Jets. Blech.
 
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