The Cold truth on how our offseason will go the remainder of the way

[GRT8]

ok, but only if when i'm right you won't post here anymore. deal?

:roflmao: :roflmao:

come on this is for asking people their idea and expressing your thoughts as well....we are all on the same team.....feel the love bros......"we are all for the bigger good"

 

[dolfan4good]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that one of these predictions will not come to pass.

You really think we will sign Sharper? I would love it but I don;t think that we have the $$$$.

 

[GRT8]

:shakeno: I can't say I don't envy your optimism but it's not reality. I think people think too much with their heart and not with their heads.

very respectful comment......:)

 

[Dubfire]

Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.

I see your point dude, but there's no fun in that.

 

[DrAstroZoom]

You really think we will sign Sharper? I would love it but I don;t think that we have the $$$$.

I'm not writing it off completely.

 

[perezferia]

Patience...

Yes, I dont understand the point the thread starter is trying to make... Even if everything he says is correct, I'd say we would still have a damn good offseason drafting Brown... I happen to think Boston might be back in a restructured contract tho... JMO

Boston is going to be with Jerry Sullivan (49'ers) and that's that.

Look, I understand why the guy posted the thread, it's true. WE ARE REBUILDING! And some of you guys are acting like an 18 year old with their first Platinum card.

Saban has kept most of the Offensive Line because he considers them fair starters and good back-ups. However, he's not STUPID. He hasn't announced his plans for the draft because he REALLY wants people to think he's gonna stay at number 2. Then and ONLY then will a team give up big picks to swing up. Why would you give up a big pick to get a top RB to a team that traded for Edge or Alexander?

Ahhh... But how much would you give up to a team sitting at number 2 that NEEDED a running back? YOUR running back? Saban knows how this game works. The first thing he did was address the defensive line so that he could have flexibility in front packages between 3-4 and 4-3.

Next it will be the offensive line and specifically Left Tackle and Center. Unless some serious competition is brought in Saban will consider this offseason a bust. Yes, you sign Frerrotte to back up Feeley. Yes you bring in a Darren Sharper or someone experienced to play safety.

But RB's are a dime a dozen this year between Alexander and James and Travis Henry. Don't forget how many of them we have signed to this team already! Gordon, Morris, etc....

I think Saban is keeping his cards close to the vest until draft day where he can get the best deal possible and only slide down 5 or 6 spots and pick up a good speed WR (we have nothing but possesion receivers on our team) a stud Center and a rookie RB. He just needs the right deal. Also, don't be surprised to se Surtain go for a high third round pick, especially to the 49'ers. Saban needs bullets. 27 and 26 year old RB's with bad knees don't interest him at all.

HE IS REBUILDING. HE WON'T TRADE FOR A PLAYER, HE WILL ONLY TRADE FOR A PICK.

Hope that was loud enough for everyone to hear.

By the way, those players that are unhappy now might hold out. If that happens, there's still alot that can be done AFTER the draft on addressing positions, especially in June.

PATIENCE.

GO PHINS!!

 

[stoody24]

Deal!!

how exciting is this??

all fun and games InMyChambers

 

[Steve S]

Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.


I admire your honesty and rationale here as too many people are not realistic at all about what this team can or should add but Saban has shown that he will go after any player he really wants and will make adjustments with the cap to do so.

This offseason has been anything but predictable.

I wouldn't cross Darren Sharper off your list, though. If Saban wants him and the whore like Vikings who seem to blow their wad on 12 defensive free agents every year, don't blow him away with an offer, he could be had.

That said, I think you are 100% right on the Edge, SA, Burress, Boston and Darius. I don't think any of them are worth the draft picks or cap space it would cost to bring them in when we can get an impact offensive player in 43 days.

Also, I think it is very possible to get more than a 2 for Pat. Supply and demand and all that. The Chiefs and Colts haven't adequately addressed their need at CB and may have to bid against each other for the best corner on the market.

 

[stoody24]

I can't say I don't envy your optimism but it's not reality. I think people think too much with their heart and not with their heads.

this i 100% agree with
its like that with almost everything in life

 

[ryancall32]

Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.

-We MAY sign Sharper
-We WILL trade down for additional picks

 

[motioncityhifi]

Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.

This thread shouldnt be titled the cold hard TRUTH about our offseason. Considering there is no truth to what you are saying because, ONE your not a member of the Dolphins Front Office. Two, you have no idea what they are doing. No one does. Its all speculation since no one leaks anything out in the papers. This is a matter of your opinion. Im not saying you are wrong, and Im not saying your right. The thing of it is this isnt the truth, only your speculation. We may resign boston for the right money. We may not. You dont know and no one outside of Saban and maybe Spielman know.

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

I think most fans think with both...Heart and head. :D

We all know it will be difficult to land James / Alexander, but it can be done. That being realistic IMO. Add to the fact that both RB's are now being shopped for less than their initial acking price, and that both would love to play in Miami, and I think you've got a serious possibility of it happening....

This trade was initially viewed as impossible based on the FT's, but now things have changed, and they've changed in our favor. Not only that, we'd be in great shape being able to keep the #2 overall pick as well....

This is a no lose situation for Saban and the Phinz IMO, and we'd be foolish not to strongly conisder a trade for one of these elite RB's....

PHINZ RULE!!! :evil:

 

[FinFan Brazil]

:shakeno: I can't say I don't envy your optimism but it's not reality. I think people think too much with their heart and not with their heads.

true, I agree with u in almost otal original post... but I think Surtain will be trade for at least a mid-late 2nd

 

[pigskinguy]

Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.

Thank you for the insight, Mr. Saban.......and welcome to Finheaven. :D

 

[LtDan]

Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.

We will not accept your word as gospel (unless you are Nick Saban). Youir opinion means as much as everyone elses. Very little