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The Cold truth on how our offseason will go the remainder of the way

pigskinguy said:
Thank you for the insight, Mr. Saban.......and welcome to Finheaven. :D
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Does that mean you agree or not?
 
no money- no players? thats why you make roster moves, restructure, release players, you find money! and the Saban and Spielman have done a very good job so far of finding money.........
 
InMyChambers said:
Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.
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Link ?? You are making some strong assumptions there...I mostly agree with you, but "We will NOT...is a little strong, unless you've been talking with Nick ??
 
InMyChambers said:
Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.
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Thank you for clearing all this up "dispenser of the cold truth".

Now I can spend a lot less time wondering what will happen.

I'm guessing you saw us spending big money on Keven Carter too, why didn't you post that for us earlier so we would have known what was coming?
 
InMyChambers said:
Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.
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I remember my first year as a Dolphin fan... you newbies kill me with all that bottled up pessimism.. wait until you learn how to be a blind optimist.. that's when the taste really gets sweet...
 
InMyChambers said:
Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.
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We really don't know for certain what will happen. The first five points are almost certainly right b/c of the cap situation. However, if Surtain is traded, we may can sign a good player and still have money left under the cap due to bonuses, etc.

As to trading Surtain - it is unlikely. It's a reach. I hope it happens b/c of the cap situation, depth at CB already and the need for more draft picks. But, I said two weeks ago it was at BEST a 50/50 chance we would trade him.

Trading down? It is unlikely, given the players in the top 10, but I don't think its so certain we won't trade down. Depends totally on who offers what to us and what Saban thinks of the other players he needs. If he likes all three RB's, for example, and someone goes up for a QB or WR and Saban believes he can move down and still get one, he may accept their offer.
 
At least know this. The person in a negotiation with the most power is the person that can step away. I think we are in a position to keep Surtain and go into the season with what have now and will draft. Who knows, maybe some GM will get desparate (as we know all to well can happen) and give us too much to turn down for Pat or another player. No one knocking down the door to get Surtain also help lower his demands related to a new contract.
 
You could't tell me next weeks lotto numbers could you? since you have it all figured out.

InMyChambers said:
Everyone is constantly bringing up these ridiculous threads about players and what we should do. I'm so sick of having to sift thru the entire site to find a few nuggets. People need to chill out and realize our offseason will not be hard to predict the rest of the way and it will go like this:

-We will NOT trade for E James
-We will NOT trade for S Alexander
-We will NOT trade for D Darius
-We will NOT resign D Boston
-We will NOT sign P Burress
-We will NOT sign D Sharper
-We may or may not trade P Surtain, but if we do it will be for a draft pick - no better than a 2nd. We will NOT receive a player in return.
-We will draft a RB with the #2 pick. We will 99% sure NOT trade down for additional picks.

I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be nice to have these players and I agree they could really help us. But the reality of the situation is is that we DO NOT have the cash to make these moves. The entire reason we are getting rid of Surtain is because we will not be able to afford him, not becasue his level of play has diminished. How do you justify losing a high priced player with exceptional skills for another when the entire reason you're making the move in the 1st place is for financial reasons. Use your head people, we simply don't have the cash!!!!!!

When you give up a draft pick for an established player, not only are you giving up a lot of money to sign that player, you are also giving up part of your future that you would have had if you drafted the younger player. Also, the younger player would come at a much cheaper rate.
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C'mon InMyChambers...no comments ?? :roflmao: :roflmao:

InMyChambers will NOT respond...

Ok, just kidding guys...don't take my head off...
 
In My Chambers:Number 1- We don't NEED to chill out because you say so. If you want to chill out then do so and we'll do what we desire to do and will arrive at the decision without your help. Number 2- When addressing a crowd as "PEOPLE" you sort of sound like your a school teacher giving us the benefit of your wisdom. Number 3- You don't know any more than any other poster on the board. We enjoy talking about what might happen and don't require a wet blanket to tell us we're wasting our time. Who died and made you hall moniter?
 
WTF!!! DCH WHERE ARE YOU??? I need a fix.
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
I think most fans think with both...Heart and head. :D

We all know it will be difficult to land James / Alexander, but it can be done. That being realistic IMO. Add to the fact that both RB's are now being shopped for less than their initial acking price, and that both would love to play in Miami, and I think you've got a serious possibility of it happening....

This trade was initially viewed as impossible based on the FT's, but now things have changed, and they've changed in our favor. Not only that, we'd be in great shape being able to keep the #2 overall pick as well....

This is a no lose situation for Saban and the Phinz IMO, and we'd be foolish not to strongly conisder a trade for one of these elite RB's....

PHINZ RULE!!! :evil:
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Who would you trade? Surtain, if so, as the poster wrote, then you still have to come up with a long term deal for Edge or Shaun, if you can do that, why not keep Surtain? The only way this deal makes sense is if Taylor, Thomas, Madison, and Surtain redo their contracts.
 
lotion said:
Does that mean you agree or not?
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It means neither. What it does mean is that I am smart enough to know that I really don't know what the Dolphins are going to do. He seems to know every move the Dolphins are going to make this offseason, and the only person who knows that in Nick Saban........so........InMyChambers must be Saban.
 
OK I think you are sick of all the nonsense posting bout rumors and stuff but you are doing the exact same thing, running rumors the rumor that the dolphins wont make anyother moves in FA. Also how can you all say Saban its not tryin to compete this year. What would be the reason to bring Carter then? 31 yo. mo fo who is making 3 million bucks a year? We are bringing Boston back for vet minimum plus incentives thru the roof, we trade D Bowens for a 5th, get rid of 2.2 millions against the cap, keep Surt, Draft a RB on the #2, get Wilkerson in the 3rd, trade up in the 4th to get into the 3rd throwing the 5th we got from D Bowens and draft Donte Nicholson in the 5th we are bringin Anthony Mcbryant, in the 7th we get Khari Long and there we are set, 10-6 team again I bet.
 
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