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The Coryell Offense

Thanks for the info. At least we have the powerful runner part, and Chambers when on can stretch the field. Now we just need everything else.
 
I have always liked this type of offense. Run with power, and throw the ball down the field. I love it.
 
thanks, now my clueless *** is a little less clueless.
 
There are only a couple of really different schemes run in the NFL. The Air Coryell scheme is really a variant of the Sid Luckman offense of the really old days when passing first became en vogue. Then of course, is the WCO.

In the Coryell tree there are guys like Ernie Zampese, Kevin Gilbride, Norv Turner, Scott Linehan, Mike Martz, Cam, etc...the basic difference between these offenses is not really the scheme but the play-calling...Gilbride, Martz, and Linehan are more vertical, downfield passing with slightly longer routes and a little less conservative...

The Zampese, Turner, Cam style of play-callling is more of the shorter to intermediate routes that relies on a strong run game with the lead blocker being the fullback and slightly more conservative play-calling. They also like to use the TE in deep middle routes after the WRs and/or backs have cleared out the short field.

because of this, I am perplexed that Cam-Mul decided to dump McMichael. I suppose we'll see how it shakes out...
 
LarryFinFan said:
There are only a couple of really different schemes run in the NFL. The Air Coryell scheme is really a variant of the Sid Luckman offense of the really old days when passing first became en vogue. Then of course, is the WCO.

In the Coryell tree there are guys like Ernie Zampese, Kevin Gilbride, Norv Turner, Scott Linehan, Mike Martz, Cam, etc...the basic difference between these offenses is not really the scheme but the play-calling...Gilbride, Martz, and Linehan are more vertical, downfield passing with slightly longer routes and a little less conservative...

The Zampese, Turner, Cam style of play-callling is more of the shorter to intermediate routes that relies on a strong run game with the lead blocker being the fullback and slightly more conservative play-calling. They also like to use the TE in deep middle routes after the WRs and/or backs have cleared out the short field.

because of this, I am perplexed that Cam-Mul decided to dump McMichael. I suppose we'll see how it shakes out...
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It has more to do with his giant salary more than anything.
 
Thanks for the link. As i'm reading got a quick question. Are we a zone blocking team? If not, are we switching?

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That's another thing that's critical to the system. Power running. You've got to be able to run the ball when you go to a three-wide receiver set, and you've got to run with power. By that I mean behind zone blocking, which is a big departure from the San Francisco system. Theirs was man-blocking, with a lot of cut-blocks and misdirection. Ours is straight power. Not many people realize this, but if we hadn't have gotten Marshall we were prepared to go with another excellent zone-blocking runner, Robert Holcombe. It takes a certain type, a guy who can run with power, who's good at picking his way through. Stephen Davis is doing that in Washington now, and that's a big reason why their offense is so good...The good thing about zone-block running is that you can keep pounding away. You don't have the negative yardage plays.​
 
LarryFinFan said:
because of this, I am perplexed that Cam-Mul decided to dump McMichael. I suppose we'll see how it shakes out...
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TEs tend to be strong blockers; they are relied upon heavily in pass protection and in paving the way for RBs in the ground game. In general, the WCO favors TEs with receiving over blocking skills (e.g. the Jets' Doug Jolley) whereas the Coryell O favors the reverse, although obviously a TE who can do both can fit into any system. This explains, in part, why 2004 rookie 7th rounder Courtney Anderson (6-6 270), with his size and ability to run-block, was able to leap-frog former 2nd rounders Doug Jolley (6-4 250) and Teyo Johnson on the Raiders depth chart.

McMike can't block.
 
LarryFinFan said:
There are only a couple of really different schemes run in the NFL. The Air Coryell scheme is really a variant of the Sid Luckman offense of the really old days when passing first became en vogue. Then of course, is the WCO.

In the Coryell tree there are guys like Ernie Zampese, Kevin Gilbride, Norv Turner, Scott Linehan, Mike Martz, Cam, etc...the basic difference between these offenses is not really the scheme but the play-calling...Gilbride, Martz, and Linehan are more vertical, downfield passing with slightly longer routes and a little less conservative...

The Zampese, Turner, Cam style of play-callling is more of the shorter to intermediate routes that relies on a strong run game with the lead blocker being the fullback and slightly more conservative play-calling. They also like to use the TE in deep middle routes after the WRs and/or backs have cleared out the short field.

because of this, I am perplexed that Cam-Mul decided to dump McMichael. I suppose we'll see how it shakes out...
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Can you imagine this vertical offense mixed with a slightly less aggressive Bill Walsh style WCO where accuracy is more important. You still have a runner that can dominate up the middle, and receivers that can catch in traffic. Wow , all you need do now is block. if you have the right personnel for the job of course.
 
LarryFinFan said:
There are only a couple of really different schemes run in the NFL. The Air Coryell scheme is really a variant of the Sid Luckman offense of the really old days when passing first became en vogue. Then of course, is the WCO.

In the Coryell tree there are guys like Ernie Zampese, Kevin Gilbride, Norv Turner, Scott Linehan, Mike Martz, Cam, etc...the basic difference between these offenses is not really the scheme but the play-calling...Gilbride, Martz, and Linehan are more vertical, downfield passing with slightly longer routes and a little less conservative...

The Zampese, Turner, Cam style of play-callling is more of the shorter to intermediate routes that relies on a strong run game with the lead blocker being the fullback and slightly more conservative play-calling. They also like to use the TE in deep middle routes after the WRs and/or backs have cleared out the short field.

because of this, I am perplexed that Cam-Mul decided to dump McMichael. I suppose we'll see how it shakes out...
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Micmike wasn't that good of a blocker, and Cam keeps saying they want play makers.

And after reading this, I feel that David Carr could definitely stride under this system. I personally hope we give him a shot. He still has the potential to be a franchise QB.:ninja:
 
Hey I have a question for any of you, How many snaps does the average team take on offense per game?

Thanks,
 
eomdtbtr said:
Hey I have a question for any of you, How many snaps does the average team take on offense per game?

Thanks,
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I would say around 60 - 70 on average...

Usually a feature back gets 18 - 25 a game
Usually a back-up back gets about 7 - 12 a game
and usually a QB will attempt 20-30 throws a game
Then add extra points a field goals, lets say average 2 - 3 FG attempts and maybe 3 - 4 extra points
 
eomdtbtr said:
Hey I have a question for any of you, How many snaps does the average team take on offense per game?

Thanks,
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Teams ran about 1,000 plays each last year so that's about 62-63 plays a game on average.

Last year we ran 1,034 plays or an average of just over 64 plays a game.
 
fins1 said:
Thanks for the link. As i'm reading got a quick question. Are we a zone blocking team? If not, are we switching?


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That's another thing that's critical to the system. Power running. You've got to be able to run the ball when you go to a three-wide receiver set, and you've got to run with power. By that I mean behind zone blocking, which is a big departure from the San Francisco system. Theirs was man-blocking, with a lot of cut-blocks and misdirection. Ours is straight power. Not many people realize this, but if we hadn't have gotten Marshall we were prepared to go with another excellent zone-blocking runner, Robert Holcombe. It takes a certain type, a guy who can run with power, who's good at picking his way through. Stephen Davis is doing that in Washington now, and that's a big reason why their offense is so good...The good thing about zone-block running is that you can keep pounding away. You don't have the negative yardage plays.​
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We are not a zone-blocking team as far as i know. We are man on mam blocking. A good example of the zone blocking scheme is the Broncos who use alot of cut back running.
 
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