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While reading an article about Beck in the Sun Sentinel:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...phins-ravens-john-beck-060309,0,4680528.story

(I couldn't help myself, like watching a car accident as you drive by.)

I was struck by one Cameron quote that I think sums up part of the difference between him and the Trifecta:

"John can sometimes try a little too hard," Cameron said. "But that's a good thing."
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I disagree.

One of the things that Pennington brings to the table is error-resistant football. Parcells has always been about that. You can't win if you keep giving the ball away. Ball control. Takeaways. Limit mistakes. Execution. All hallmarks of a Parcells team. All things we DIDN'T have under Cameron.

John Beck tried. Tried hard. I believe no one on this forum should question Beck's effort; he gave it 100%. Wasn't. Good. Enough. You might blame the O-line, the coaching, but I think (to his credit) Beck didn't shift the blame. I can't say the same about the head coach. Cameron seemed to follow the winds of opinion more than the force of conviction. I don't think Parcells would have allowed an error-prone unprepared QB to take the field. Cameron excused Beck's lack of performance given his effort. Parcells (or Sparano) I think wouldn't.

It reminds me of the current trend in schools to recognize every effort, no matter how pathetic, and to coddle kids instead of being honest with them. Someone needs to be honest with people who want to be a singer and can't sing. Like it or not, Tedd Ginn's school teacher was being blunt (she told him he was headed toward flipping burgers at BK), but it was true, something needed to change or he was on the road to a minimum wage job. Not only did he have his 4.2 speed but he got lessons to address his disability and got his act together academically. Way to go, Ted.

Sometimes trying real hard ISN'T good enough. If as a QB you can't make the throw DON'T. Punt. Come back next time. Get better. Innovate. But don't force it in there. That's one of Penny's strengths. Not giving it away is a Dolphin strength. Now.

Big difference between Cameron and the Tuna. Vive la difference!
 
I disagree with your assessment. Sometimes young players do try to hard and force things. That does not mean they don't have talent.
I think he tried to place too much pressure on himself his rookie season and tried to carry the team. He wasn't in a position nor was he prepared to take on a task like that
 
Can we all sing Kumbaya and send him on his merry way? He's gone, and discussing him is about as useful as discussing Eddie Moore.
 
I think he tried to place too much pressure on himself his rookie season and tried to carry the team. He wasn't in a position nor was he prepared to take on a task like that
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To me that fault (and I think you nailed it) has to be laid on coaching. My intended point in the thread. I hope reading the thread you didn't think it was anti-Beck. To be honest, I liked the guy. Maybe not so much as a player, but as a hard working person, heck ya. I thought Cameron was the one who did the damage and am glad Cameron is giving John a chance at redemption. I think he owes it to him.

I thought Cameron's comment from the article showed the difference between the '07 Dolphins and the '08 Dolphins and why the '09 Dolphins will continue to develop and grow. I think Parcells/Sparano does better at putting rookies in situations where they can prosper and keeps them from having to try too hard, to let the game slow down and come to them. I think the coaching/front office in '07 was atrocious (especially relative to the Trifecta) and I was reminded of this by Cameron's comment. I am thankful for how far we've come.

Can we all sing Kumbaya and send him on his merry way? He's gone, and discussing him is about as useful as discussing Eddie Moore.
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We can (although I'd rather not sing that song ever again, thanks). Again, this wasn't intended as a Beck thread as much as a coaching thread. I am so thankful for the change in leadership of Miami. I am very confident in the direction we're going. What a change from 2007!!!!
 
I understand the tone of this thread. It's not about Beck, but more about a shift in attitude within the Miami Dolphins organization. Where at one time when "even though you failed, you tried REALLY, REALLY, hard." was the norm for the program. Now, it's all about "bringing your very best to the office, and if you don't perform we will gladly show you the door."
 
Beck might turn out to be a good qb, having time to absorb without pressure. who knows? The Jets may have been better off giving us a pick or something for him instead of wasting all that on Sanchez.
 
Smith21 said:
if it wasnt for the jets being crazy and trading for a retired qb we wouldnt of had pennington
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We probably would have had Henne playing in a system tailored to fit a strong-armed rookie QB, just like they went during the 2008 season with a system tailored to fit an experienced, accurate, short-armed, veteran QB. No 11-5, probably, but I think we would have still improved over 2007. No Pennington game plan might have not been that dissimilar to what they went with in '08, giving Chad H opportunities to make easy throws and basing the offense around a steady diet of Ricky and Ronnie (and Cobbs). Including wildcat. Some more vertical passing maybe to Ginn.

I do believe CP10 was a Godsend. I think Henne will be well prepared when ("if" the White faithful say) he takes the reins.
 
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