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The Dolphins still have plenty of cap room thanks to Grier

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Grier has done a fantastic job bringing in talent and maximizing our cap. Here’s an update on their current salary cap situation, including their current cap space, biggest cap hits and remaining dead money. The Dolphins entered the offseason with the most cap space in the league. Now, just a few months before the start of the regular season, they have the 10th-most.

With all of the players that received large contracts or extensions this offseason, you’d probably expect these numbers to be higher. However, Grier managed to keep the cap hits low in these first years, and they’ll rise as the cap rises in the future.

  1. Emmanuel Ogbah: $11.35 million
  2. Mike Gesicki: $10.93 million
  3. Xavien Howard: $9.89 million
  4. Jerome Baker: $9.73 million
  5. Tua Tagovailoa: $8.26 million
  6. Teddy Bridgewater: $6.5 million
  7. Tyreek Hill: $6.49 million
  8. Jaylen Waddle: $6.16 million
  9. Byron Jones: $5.87 million
  10. Cedrick Wilson Jr.: $5.75 million
 
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I think our roster is set except for one tackle who could take over for Armstead in case of injury or Jackson in case he bombs..

I don’t see any other position where we could get an upgrade Thru free agency and I don’t see anyone trading a legit starting tackle at this stage..

Maybe we get lucky and a vet tackle gets cut in camp because of cap contraints.
 
Let's be honest with Grier here and look at his whole body of work. He has been with the franchise for 22 years and the GM since 2016. It has been far from pretty. Moves this year look good on paper, but we have yet to play a game. Since 2016, he has done well at creating draft picks and cap space but really hasn't done much with it. He had a pretty good draft last year, but as a whole has been subpar. His FA selections as a whole have been really bad, the jury is still out for this years FA pick ups.

The biggest issue on this team for a long time has been the OL and it has not been addressed properly in the past, it has been disastrous. We will see if Collins and Armstead can help fix that, along with good coaching and scheme. Like I said, the jury is still out.

As a whole so far, he has not been very good. Hopefully that starts to change.
 
For what it’s worth, Spotrac has them at 7th most cap space available.
10th if you look at the top 51, which is the effective cap space and really what matters. Not splitting hairs, just pointing out that Spotrac doesn't differentiate on some of their lists. I prefer OTC myself, for exactly that reason.

Actually, a third of the league is within 10 mil of each other, so the exact spot in the order isn't all that meaningful. You really have to look 1-3 years down the road to have any kind of accurate assessment of overall cap health.

 
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10th if you look at the top 51, which is the effective cap space and really what matters. Not splitting hairs, just pointing out that Spotrac doesn't differentiate on some of their lists. I prefer OTC myself, for exactly that reason.

Actaully, a third of the league is within 10 mil of each other, so the exact spot in the order isn't all that meaningful. You really have to look 1-3 years down the road to have any kind of accurate assesment of overall cap health.

How do we project for next year Mach?
 
Tua is going to be interesting next off-season, if he plays well this season it's going to be time to discuss an extension.

In two years we're going to probably be discussing extensions with Waddle and Phillips too.
 
10th if you look at the top 51, which is the effective cap space and really what matters. Not splitting hairs, just pointing out that Spotrac doesn't differentiate on some of their lists. I prefer OTC myself, for exactly that reason.

Actaully, a third of the league is within 10 mil of each other, so the exact spot in the order isn't all that meaningful. You really have to look 1-3 years down the road to have any kind of accurate assesment of overall cap health.


Yep - I understand effective cap space and Top 51 (I think I actually used the term “functional cap space” in a couple posts.) That’s what I was referencing - I probably should have pointed that out.

Spotrac lists them as 7th. Here ya go: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/
 
10th if you look at the top 51, which is the effective cap space and really what matters. Not splitting hairs, just pointing out that Spotrac doesn't differentiate on some of their lists. I prefer OTC myself, for exactly that reason.

Actaully, a third of the league is within 10 mil of each other, so the exact spot in the order isn't all that meaningful. You really have to look 1-3 years down the road to have any kind of accurate assesment of overall cap health.


Yep - I understand effective cap space and Top 51 (I think I actually used the term “functional cap space” in a couple posts.) That’s what I was referencing - I probably should have pointed that out.

Spotrac lists them as 7th. Here ya go: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/
There has always been a discrepancy between Over The Cap and Spotrac in terms of absolute cap space. It is based on the way they calculate the space and new money and the weirdest thing is I can't figure it out, I've tried for years, so now I use both sites for different things as they both have their good and bad.

The best answer I can give you guys is contract escalators and incentives, I think one uses them in calculations and the other doesn't, that's the best answer I've ever been able to deduct but that is still just my theory.
 
Tua is going to be interesting next off-season, if he plays well this season it's going to be time to discuss an extension.

In two years we're going to probably be discussing extensions with Waddle and Phillips too.

Despite all of the chaos and nonsense over the past two years, the Tua situation couldn’t have worked out better for the Fins financially. Unless Tua throws for 45+ TDs and 4,500 yards, he’s not going to be demanding a $150mm contract. And if he does, I don’t think many will complain about giving it to him.
 
How do we project for next year Mach?
You look at players under contract for 2023 and the amount owed, guaranteed, dead money, etc. You have to also take into account money amortized from any signing bonus. This link is a great starting point.


You may notice that, as of now, we are 2.4 mil over for next year. Not a big deal for a couple reasons, the main one being that the number is based on the cap remaining the same, which it will not.
 
There has always been a discrepancy between Over The Cap and Spotrac in terms of absolute cap space. It is based on the way they calculate the space and new money and the weirdest thing is I can't figure it out, I've tried for years, so now I use both sites for different things as they both have their good and bad.

The best answer I can give you guys is contract escalators and incentives, I think one uses them in calculations and the other doesn't, that's the best answer I've ever been able to deduct but that is still just my theory.
Exactly this. They are both "tools" and have different uses. The biggest discrepancy is (and it depends what list) I think many times Spotrac uses the total under contract, rather than top 51, or 53 in some circumstances. Even when they do, there is usually a tab/column where you can reorder by top 51.
 
Exactly this. They are both "tools" and have different uses. The biggest discrepancy is (and it depends what list) I think many times Spotrac uses the total under contract, rather than top 51, or 53 in some circumstances. Even when they do, there is usually a tab/column where you can reorder by top 51.

100% agreed. I can’t even give a logical reason as to why I prefer Spotrac. I just do.
 
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