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I've seen several threads lately where people are trying to predict how many wins the Dolphins will have next year. This is a pretty boring part of the offseason, so I started day dreaming about that myself and the first thing that I thought of was with 6 games in our own division, how would we stack up in the AFC EAST?

VS The Patriots

Okay, realistically, we should have no chance here at all. I mean, in the past we have been able to win some games and give Brady fits with our defense, but in truth, with all of those weapons they added on offense, Brady should be able to attack the entire field, which no defense can protect. And that was before they added Randy Moss. Now, if Moss plays like he's capable of, forget it. Their defense rates similar to ours, and just got a whole lot better with the addition of Adalius Thomas. Not sure what kind of impact Brandon Merriweather will have in his rookie year, but they did manage to improve on that side of the ball, depressingly. Their offense? They are significantly better than we are at pretty much every position on offense except for maybe running back. They have improved their wide receiver corps significantly from last year. I hope I'm wrong, but I see two losses right here.

VS The Jets

The Jets didn't seem to really improve all that much this offseason. They only had a few draft picks, and the only one worth mentioning is Darrell Revis, the cornerback. But, if he starts, he is still a Rookie Cornerback, so he'll make mistakes. Their Quarterback situation is more stable than ours, but Chad Pennington has a history that suggests he may be injury prone, so if he's gets injured again this year, then I'm not convinced that they have alot behind him. Their offensive line will be better in the second year of Dbrickshaw Feruguson and Nick Mangold. But, Our defensive front seven is better than their offensive line and we improved in our linebacking and secondary, so I think our defense matches up well with their offense. Their defense is average at best, maybe even below average, so if we can get even average play out our of our offense, then we should have a good chance to beat these guys every time we play them this year. All in all, I predict that we split with these guys and go 1-1 this year.

vs The Bills

The Bills are the one team in this division that in my opinion not only did not improve this year, but actually took steps backward. This team simply doesn't seem to want to spend the money to get to the top. They lost Nate Clements to the 49ers and you know that's gonna hurt, big time. That alone makes our passing game better when we meet these guys. They traded McGahee and now have an unproven rookie at tailback. That can only go one of two ways and no way Marshawn Lynch is as good as McGahee in his rookie season. They added Pousluszny to their linebacking corps, but he's a rookie, so this year he will have much to learn and may not even start on opening day, although if he doesn't, I'm sure he will at some point in the season. JP Lossman is okay, but still makes enough mistakes that the Bills drafted Trent Edwards despite having greater immediate needs. In short, even if we have to start Cleo Lemon against these guys, I think we have improved from last year when we were playing Harrington/Culpepper, our defense has improved, their defense has taken a step backward, we should win. I predict that this year we will win both of these games vs the Bills, and that they will be in the AFC EAST Cellar. Fins 2-0.

So, looking at that, I'd have to say, 3 losses, three wins in our own division isn't two bad. Projecting that to the rest of the schedule, I'd say 500 in general doesn't look too unlikely, in other words, I think we'll finish 8-8 this year. Not great, but an improvement for sure.
 
The Jets got Thomas Jones from the Bears!

That's true. But I still think we can take em at least once this year. Thomas Jones is a decent back, but not a great one. That shouldn't really scare our defense...
 
The Jets got Thomas Jones, bolstered the depth on the DL, have 2 2nd year players on the OL who SHOULD improve, Chad isn't rehabbing this year, we are in year 2 of a new system, our young coaches now have mroe experience, we drafted 2 potential starters. i'd saywe improved and improved ALOT. whther that translates to mroe ins or not I don't know but talent wise and comfort wise w/the system we are in MUCH better shape today than a year ago.
 
The Jets got Thomas Jones, bolstered the depth on the DL, have 2 2nd year players on the OL who SHOULD improve, Chad isn't rehabbing this year, we are in year 2 of a new system, our young coaches now have mroe experience, we drafted 2 potential starters. i'd saywe improved and improved ALOT. whther that translates to mroe ins or not I don't know but talent wise and comfort wise w/the system we are in MUCH better shape today than a year ago.

You won 10 games last year right? I don't see anything you guys did this off season that will translate into winning more than that this year. As a matter of fact, I think you'll be hard pressed to repeat it, the schedule looks tougher than last year...
 
Kyndig said:
I've seen several threads lately where people are trying to predict how many wins the Dolphins will have next year. This is a pretty boring part of the offseason, so I started day dreaming about that myself and the first thing that I thought of was with 6 games in our own division, how would we stack up in the AFC EAST?

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vs The Bills

The Bills are the one team in this division that in my opinion not only did not improve this year, but actually took steps backward. This team simply doesn't seem to want to spend the money to get to the top. They lost Nate Clements to the 49ers and you know that's gonna hurt, big time. That alone makes our passing game better when we meet these guys. They traded McGahee and now have an unproven rookie at tailback. That can only go one of two ways and no way Marshawn Lynch is as good as McGahee in his rookie season. They added Pousluszny to their linebacking corps, but he's a rookie, so this year he will have much to learn and may not even start on opening day, although if he doesn't, I'm sure he will at some point in the season. JP Lossman is okay, but still makes enough mistakes that the Bills drafted Trent Edwards despite having greater immediate needs. In short, even if we have to start Cleo Lemon against these guys, I think we have improved from last year when we were playing Harrington/Culpepper, our defense has improved, their defense has taken a step backward, we should win. I predict that this year we will win both of these games vs the Bills, and that they will be in the AFC EAST Cellar. Fins 2-0.

So, looking at that, I'd have to say, 3 losses, three wins in our own division isn't two bad. Projecting that to the rest of the schedule, I'd say 500 in general doesn't look too unlikely, in other words, I think we'll finish 8-8 this year. Not great, but an improvement for sure.

It's really too bad that you didn't get all the facts about what the other teams in the AFC East have been doing during the off season before you posted this. You wouldn't take so many hits.

The Jets fans have corrected some of your faux pas about the Jets, and I'll set you straight about the Bills ...

1. Nate Clements: No cornerback is worth $80 million, especially if he plays in a cover2 defense which is a zone rather than man-to-man defense. The Bills will miss Nate because he was an excellent CB, but they have a youngster named Ashton Youboty whom they expect to take his place. They also have a couple of lesser known vets who have played well.

2. Willis McGahee: Willis was very unhappy in Buffalo, and it affected his play. He would have been a free agent in 2008, and if the Bills had franchised him, he would have probably held out. The Bills got 2 thirds and a 7th for him, whereas they would have gotten nothing if they didn't deal him. Moreover, Willis was more of a liability than an asset in the passing game. The Bills will most likely use tandem backs like NE and Indy did last year while Marshawn is learning the ropes. Anthony Thomas is a decent RB but probably not the guy to take 300 carries. Thomas is a great asset in the passing game, and Marshawn can be at least as good as Willis even as a rookie. In fact, Marshawn has the potential to become another all purpose back like Thurman Thomas.

3. Paul Posluszny: Last year London Fletcher made a lot of tackles, but they were mostly downfield, which isn't what you want with the cover2. Poz is an attacking cover2-type LB, so the he fits much better than London. As for being a rookie, it's not the same kind of liability as having a rookie QB. The Bills had a rookie competently playing LB for most of last season in 6th round draft choice Keith Ellison frequently subbing for the injured Takeo Spikes.

4. JP Losman: 3051 yards, 62.5% completions, 19 TDs, 14 INTs is better than "okay" for a first time full time starter playing behind an inferior offensive line. Since the Bills traded Kelly Holcomb, they needed another QB and planned to draft one. Trent Edwards was a projected second rounder who was still available at the end of the third, so the Bills took BPA. It makes a lot more sense than taking a CB with only fourth or fifth round talent at #93.

5. Offensive line: You missed the fact that the Bills added 2 starting caliber offensive linemen in free agency: left guard Derrick Dockery and right guard/tackle Langston Walker. They also added a quality veteran backup in Jason Whittle to go along with their group of young veteran OLmen, including outstanding LT Jason Peters. When this group "gels" as the saying goes, Losman is going to have all day to throw and the RBs are going to have some holes to run through! Look for the Bills to develop into a ball control team with quick strike capability when needed.

5. Defensive line: You also missed that the Bills strengthened their defensive line by trading Takeo Spikes for DT Darwin Walker. More importantly, last year's second first round draft pick, DT John McCargo, should back 100% from his foot injury. Of course, the Bills DEs, led by Pro Bowler Aaron Schobel will be back in force. Last year they raised havoc with all the Miami QBs (they sacked Daunte 5 times in the first game alone),so they will be taking aim again on current starting tackles Vernon Carey and LJ Shelton, both of whom will be playing out of position. :D

Last season, the Bills were 10th in points allowed, but their problems on offense, particularly with the OL and its inability to get much "push" in short yardage and red-zone situations resulted in a 7-9 record. While the Bills have lost a little on D, they've gained so much talent on the offensive line, that they should become a high scoring machine by mid-season. Barring injury to key personnel, the Bills and Jets are likely to scrap it out for a wild card berth -- and maybe two.

The Fins have a great defense, but it's aging, and the offense is worse than last season which spells trouble in South Florida. The offensive line has its best player out of position (RT Carey playing LT), and is making due with cast-offs and never-weres with the exception of Hadnot and third round rookie Satele. If some of the no-name guys don't step up big time, it's not going to make much difference who is at QB, who is playing WR or who is running the ball because there's not going to be much offensive production.
 
You won 10 games last year right? I don't see anything you guys did this off season that will translate into winning more than that this year. As a matter of fact, I think you'll be hard pressed to repeat it, the schedule looks tougher than last year...
Thomas Jones is not the answer, thats for sure.
 
You won 10 games last year right? I don't see anything you guys did this off season that will translate into winning more than that this year. As a matter of fact, I think you'll be hard pressed to repeat it, the schedule looks tougher than last year...

Adding the best back in the division didn't help? and the other moves I mentioned? All our scheds get tougher this year(at least as of now) and we all have very similar scheds every year so how are you going to win more than 6 w/ a tougher sched this year?
 
Enforcerfin33 said:
Thomas Jones is not the answer, thats for sure.

Jones probably isn't, but he can give the Jets a better running game than they had last season. Ferguson and Mangold, barring injury, should be better this year than last -- and they were pretty darn good last season. Even an average RB behind a good OL usually does better than most good or even great RBs running behind a bad OL.

Moreover, from the style that the Jets played last season, they don't need a great RB. They need a guy to get his 65-80 yards a game, keep the chains moving on third and short, and get into the end zone from the one. That's Jones.

Improving their D will count for more in getting wins than having a RB who leads the league in rushing yards or YPC.
 
vs The Bills

The Bills are the one team in this division that in my opinion not only did not improve this year, but actually took steps backward. This team simply doesn't seem to want to spend the money to get to the top. They lost Nate Clements to the 49ers and you know that's gonna hurt, big time. That alone makes our passing game better when we meet these guys. They traded McGahee and now have an unproven rookie at tailback. That can only go one of two ways and no way Marshawn Lynch is as good as McGahee in his rookie season. They added Pousluszny to their linebacking corps, but he's a rookie, so this year he will have much to learn and may not even start on opening day, although if he doesn't, I'm sure he will at some point in the season. JP Lossman is okay, but still makes enough mistakes that the Bills drafted Trent Edwards despite having greater immediate needs. In short, even if we have to start Cleo Lemon against these guys, I think we have improved from last year when we were playing Harrington/Culpepper, our defense has improved, their defense has taken a step backward, we should win. I predict that this year we will win both of these games vs the Bills, and that they will be in the AFC EAST Cellar. Fins 2-0.

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Nah, adding a player who as of now is the best RB in the division to a team that had no running game last year won't help.:rolleyes2 :sidelol:
dont kid yourself....he is not better then RB or for that matter the back from the Pats...
 
dont kid yourself....he is not better then RB or for that matter the back from the Pats...

Brown has barely 1 1,000 yd season, mauroney disappeared in the playoffs while Jones carried a bad O on his back to the SB.
 
The Jets got Thomas Jones, bolstered the depth on the DL, have 2 2nd year players on the OL who SHOULD improve, Chad isn't rehabbing this year, we are in year 2 of a new system, our young coaches now have mroe experience, we drafted 2 potential starters. i'd saywe improved and improved ALOT. whther that translates to mroe ins or not I don't know but talent wise and comfort wise w/the system we are in MUCH better shape today than a year ago.

you could've gotten LT and it wouldn't matter. Anything anyone else does is a step back and everything the fins do is taking them to the sb.
 
You won 10 games last year right? I don't see anything you guys did this off season that will translate into winning more than that this year. As a matter of fact, I think you'll be hard pressed to repeat it, the schedule looks tougher than last year...

You do understand the dolphins were the worst team in the division last year? And the schedule looks tougher for the dolphins as well...
 
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