The Flynn poll...

[CusePhinFan]

I would like the signing even though I am not sold on Flynn. As long as the contract isn't too big why not? Unproven for the long haul but from his few starts he looks to have some potential. No risking draft picks just money/cap space. As long as they don't overpay and structure the contract well this is a no brainer IMO. This team is not going to find its QB without taking some risks and this isn't that much of one without picks involved.

 

[DeathStar]

I'm for it. You have to take a chance if you want to be good. If the Dolphins fail with Flynn then it's like nothing ever changed anyway. You have to gamble.

Yep. We know what we have in Moore and he is just an 8-8 season waiting to happen.

As you said, we gotta gamble and see if we can be better than just average...

But, can we close the deal? I'm getting scared that because he didn't sign a deal tonight that Ross/Ireland are gonna let him walk to Seattle....

Plus Philbin knows the kid...And Sherman while being a so so head coach, is a great OC...

 

[SeanSmith24]

honestly any quaterback can be great in the nfl as long as he has the tools to play, and most develop that from pee wee to college. Its all about the system you play them in, how you hide there weakness and use the strengths to the fullest and matt flynn knows philben system better then any other qb other then aaron rodgers. now its up to our coaches to put a great team together by building around flynn

 

[Predaphin]

I am against signing Matt Flynn....I am tired of stop gap quick fix QB's...I want a true franchise QB now and Matt Flynn is not it.

Aside from the fact that we are the only other real team interested in him, it's definetley not good a good sign that Flynn has not signed by now, which makes me believe they made a low ball offer...In other words, the Phins are playing it smart and are being better safe than sorry, but if Philbin thought highly of Flynn as the franchise QB, then there would be no need to play it safe...

If Philbin really wanted this guy, he would have been signed by now...I personally dont want Flynn anywhere near the Phins, but if he signs, Philbin's coaching career will hinge on Flynn...you don't vouch for Flynn and then decide he's no good next year...if Flynn becomes a Dolphin, then Philbin is commited to him and you can pretty much kiss drafting a QB in the first round good bye, whether it be this year or next year....signing Flynn will take up at least a 2 year commitment cause our FO is not going to want to look clueless.

I would rather much be patient and if we dont get our franchise QB in this years draft, I can wait till next year, cause with or without Flynn we aint going anywhere anyways...

It seems like some fin fans want to sign Flynn simply because they believe he is better than Matt Moore and not because they think he is a franchise QB...

 

[sharp]

Joe Philbin understands Matt Flynn better than anybody. If he's willing to tie his job to him, then I trust the desicion.

If there was anyone on this forum that should be skeptical of any mediocre or at least proven player.. I would think it would be you. Looks like I wear the dark cloud now as you are enlightened.

 

[Predaphin]

For those of you who voted thumb's down on Flynn, give this some thought. Peyton Manning has said many times that he doesn't like playing in cold weather. What happens in November, December and January when we have to possibly play in NYC, Foxboro and Buffalo? Matt Flynn had a record setting day in the cold of Green Bay against a good Detroit defense, would Manning have played as well? We don't know if Flynn will ever be as good as Manning, but he is 26, not 36, and has lots of up size. Manning may never be what he once was, and teams are willing to cough up $90/5 years? That's crazy.

Are you talking about the same Detroit defense that ranked #23 overall and had one of the weakest secondaries? Both the games Flynn started were against weak defenses....and Im not giving Flynn a thumbs down simply because we missed on Manning, (which BTW had we signed Manning we probably could have had home field through the playoffs and not needed to play in cold weather)....Regardless, I dont want Flynn simply because I dont believe he is a franchise QB, plain and simple

 

[tay0365]

if we sign him, philbin has tied a lot of his future to him. Imo flynn did not look more than a little better than an average back up aainst the pats in 2010. We haven't seen much play out of flynn but the pats game is the best sample of a competative game.

I don't know, seems to me 24/37 (64.8%), 251 yds, 3 TDs, 1 INT, (100.16 QBR) is more then just a better then average backup's stats against any team. He does still need to prove himself, but those 2 games he started were each "SIT UP AND TAKE NOTICE" type games.

 

[tay0365]

Are you talking about the same Detroit defense that ranked #23 overall and had one of the weakest secondaries? Both the games Flynn started were against weak defenses....and Im not giving Flynn a thumbs down simply because we missed on Manning, (which BTW had we signed Manning we probably could have had home field through the playoffs and not needed to play in cold weather)....Regardless, I dont want Flynn simply because I dont believe he is a franchise QB, plain and simple

Something to consider, that same defense played 15 other game this past year, including the Packer/Lion game in Detroit, did you see any other team dominate them as much as Flynn lead offense did?

Don't get me wong, Flynn could end up being garbage, but you need to give Flynn his little due on having two amazing games in his 1st two starts.

 

[dolphans1]

wow!!

I laughed so loud, my opinion on Flynn, is the same as Ronnie Brown's, it doesn't matter, he just an average to below average QB, that's it, Ronnie was just an average RB.

d-1

 

[Clipse]

I laughed so loud, my opinion on Flynn, is the same as Ronnie Brown's, it doesn't matter, he just an average to below average QB, that's it, Ronnie was just an average RB.

d-1

Weren't you the same guy talking up Tyler Thigpen at every opportunity?

At any rate, nobody knows whether or not Flynn is franchise material or not, so let's not act like we do. Philbin has seen him everyday in practice for 4 years. If he likes Flynn, I have no reason as of now to disagree.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I'd have to say no. His upside is most likely similar to the other Matts -- Cassel and Ryan. The league basically has to tip over for you to threaten the Super Bowl.

More fun to be a laughing stock a while longer, and for Jeff Ireland to make a fool of himself several more times before being shown the door, than to pretend the quarterback position is solved when all you've done is align with a guy who might find 10-6 and a first round exit.

He's got a nice little softball arm and decent feel and touch, better than a 7th rounder but the mere fact he was a 7th rounder should scare us away. Unfortunately, Jeff Ireland is too brain dead to think that way. He walks around with the suit and the silent smirk actually believing he's a prototype general manager. Meanwhile, among the gems he has pursued at the most vital position are Chad Henne, Pat White, Kyle Orton and now Matt Flynn. Credit for a high class backup bargain in Matt Moore.

Signing Matt Flynn is like drafting Ronnie Brown #2 overall. You feel good about yourself but it's like trudging up a sand dune, gaining no ground. Brown was never rated the 2nd best player until long after his final season at Auburn, and Flynn suddenly became a hot commodity free agent after a couple of high profile games. In one of those games Green Bay was a 13.5 point underdog, due to so little faith in Matt Flynn. Keep in mind that was the same 2010 Green Bay team that set a modern record by never trailing by more than 7 points in any game. Yet they were a two touchdown underdog at New England due to perception of Matt Flynn. I don't care about the result. As always, my belief is that early evaluation is more accurate than results, the vast majority of the time. The factors that led Flynn to be a 13.5 point underdog are bound to show up in large doses.

I want to draft a quarterback who has been a blue blood and two touchdown favorite all his life, even if it takes a couple of more years, and plenty of defeats, before the path is there.

Not that we have anything to complain about in free agency, considering our stadium situation. I'm surprised they even visit, or the draft picks agree to show up.

Never a full day without a rip toward Dolphin Stadium.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I laughed so loud, my opinion on Flynn, is the same as Ronnie Brown's, it doesn't matter, he just an average to below average QB, that's it, Ronnie was just an average RB.

d-1

Hey, my apologies for stealing your Ronnie Brown comparison. I was looking at basketball odds while wandering through a lengthy post. Your post wasn't here when I started.

You forgot to ridicule our stadium. That always goes along with properly downgrading Ronnie Brown. Just imagine if our stadium were uprooted and shipped somewhere else. The apologists would insist it would dominate the league.

 

[TheWalrus]

I think the perception that Flynn was going to be a hot commodity free agent hasn't particularly been borne out by the facts. In fact, the most striking thing about his free agency is just how dull it's been, with only Seattle and Miami taking a serious interest, and only Miami being willing to offer him a starting job.

There have been several of these kinds of situations in recent league history -- the backup who flashes and then gets a starting job somewhere else -- but one thing you find generally is that when the guy has turned out to be a dud it's been when he's been signed by a team that didn't know him very well if at all. That's the Kolb scenario, in addition to the Feeley and Rob Johnson ones. Obviously, that isn't the case here.

At the end of the day, though, I believe that talent wins out, not situations. If Matt Hasselbeck had gone somewhere other than Seattle (where Holmgren knew him well) I still believe he would have been a success because Matt Hasselbeck is a talented guy who listened to coaching and improved himself (see Mark Brunell as an example of a guy who went somewhere where he wasn't known and still succeeded). On the other hand, Matt Cassell had a great chance to succeed going to Kansas City where Pioli knew him and a whole season of starting under his belt, but that hasn't worked out because, well... Cassell just doesn't have what it takes.

It's all down to talent. The deck is stacked against a play like Flynn working out but getting a quarterback isn't like trying to make one's living gambling. You only have to be right once to not have to play the odds for another 10 years.

If Philbin wasn't our coach it's one of those moves where you close your eyes and pray. As it is you sort of end up praying for a different thing: that Philbin isn't a Sparano type who overvalues familiarity relative to talent and loads up your roster with bums he "knows."

PS: I hate the stadium, too.

 

[McGaniel]

I just googled matt and matt highlights and I kill me if you want but moore looks much better in all aspects of the game. go watch the videos on you tube..

 

[Martel13]

I feel like Flynn makes us 7-9 or even worse 8-8. I'm on the blow for Barkley train. Sad days for the Phins continue