The importance on this years draft

[paulomac77]

The dolphins had the most dissappointing year of any team in the NFL, which only means we're drafting earlier than we should be and that we're not that far off from being a championship contender in the AFC. In order for that too happen we need a player/players that are ready to step onto the field and contribute, we dont need a nickle CB (leon Hall) we've got enough of those, okoye might be the best DL to come out of this draft but that might not be until 3 years down the road, and we certainly shouldnt draft a player at the #9 spot based partially on his KR potential(ted ginn).... although CB, DL, and WR/KR/PR are all priorities that should and probably will be addressed in the draft this april, i dont think these players are the guys that will take us to the next level....IMO we need to make OL our highest priority and although levi brown probably doesnt deserve to be drafted as high as #9, he is the next best OL besides joe thomas,... in the second round we will be lucky to see kalil or joe staley on the board but if we do we would be crazy to pass on them, in this league you can't get by with 5 good o-linemen, u have to have at least 6 maybe 7 that u can plug into the game if injurys cripple the OL....beyond the OL our secondary has to improve, the best way to do that is probably through FA's and trying to land either A.Samual or Clements in south beach... say what you will about the aging DL, at least theres talent on the DL, theres not one playmaker in the secondary with the occassional exception of Y.bell.

My 3 round mock

1st round- trade down w/ STL and pick up another 3rd or 4th round pick so they can draft hall, draft levi brown at #13 or take d. revis the CB from Pitt
2nd round- take kalil if available or take bowe from LSU or meachem if one of them falls on draft day
3rd round- take stanton if he's on the board and if not go BPA at either S,DL,OL, or WR assuming we havnt taken a wideout yet...eric weddle from utah, anthony spencer from purdue, james marten from BC or scott chandler the TE from iowa
....take BPA regardless of position with the extra pick from the trade with the Rams

 

[jason8er]

The dolphins had the most dissappointing year of any team in the NFL

I thought Carolina had that distinction.

 

[Killer308]

I totally agree with you. I think this is going to be one of the most important draft's in Fin history.

 

[DeFINSeWins]

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS ON HALL AND GINN!!! However, okoye i think will be an amazing dlineman and like you said in 3 years he will be dominating. You cant draft based on the next year you have to draft for the overall longterm which makes him a very intriguing pick. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of taking levi brown first round. I like him a lot better than ginn or hall who have bust written all over them.

IN the 2nd and 3rd rounds, there is so much potential. WRS (meachem, rice, gonzalez), linebackers (siler, beason, willis), dlineman (woodley, moses), olinman (kalil maybe, ugoh) will all be available or have potential to be picked. I think our 2nd and 3rd round picks are most crucial to this draft. WE CAN GET 2 more starting calliber players immediately if we do a good job in those rounds. Woodley could come in at outside linebacker, meachem could take over for booker, and siler could take over crowders position allowing him to move outside in the 3-4. Our first 3 picks have the potential to be 3 starters asap. Its been quite a few years since we had our first 3 picks and now we have a chance to get young very fast!

 

[Geforce]

The dolphins had the most dissappointing year of any team in the NFL, which only means we're drafting earlier than we should be and that we're not that far off from being a championship contender in the AFC. In order for that too happen we need a player/players that are ready to step onto the field and contribute, we dont need a nickle CB (leon Hall) we've got enough of those, okoye might be the best DL to come out of this draft but that might not be until 3 years down the road, and we certainly shouldnt draft a player at the #9 spot based partially on his KR potential(ted ginn).... although CB, DL, and WR/KR/PR are all priorities that should and probably will be addressed in the draft this april, i dont think these players are the guys that will take us to the next level....IMO we need to make OL our highest priority and although levi brown probably doesnt deserve to be drafted as high as #9, he is the next best OL besides joe thomas,... in the second round we will be lucky to see kalil or joe staley on the board but if we do we would be crazy to pass on them, in this league you can't get by with 5 good o-linemen, u have to have at least 6 maybe 7 that u can plug into the game if injurys cripple the OL....beyond the OL our secondary has to improve, the best way to do that is probably through FA's and trying to land either A.Samual or Clements in south beach... say what you will about the aging DL, at least theres talent on the DL, theres not one playmaker in the secondary with the occassional exception of Y.bell.

My 3 round mock

1st round- trade down w/ STL and pick up another 3rd or 4th round pick so they can draft hall, draft levi brown at #13 or take d. revis the CB from Pitt
2nd round- take kalil if available or take bowe from LSU or meachem if one of them falls on draft day
3rd round- take stanton if he's on the board and if not go BPA at either S,DL,OL, or WR assuming we havnt taken a wideout yet...eric weddle from utah, anthony spencer from purdue, james marten from BC or scott chandler the TE from iowa
....take BPA regardless of position with the extra pick from the trade with the Rams

Unless talk up to the draft has us leaning towards Leon Hall, St Louis will have no reason to trade with us. Besides, they drafted a CB in the 1st round last year. They may be willing to do if for Levi Brown because they too need offensive line help.

 

[Lab3003]

I don't think drafting a lineman is the best thing at #9. I subscribe to the Jimmy Johnson philosophy; unless that lineman is an absolute lock (e.g. Ferguson last year) than why waste a high pick on someone who won't directly score any points? You can have the best blocking in the world but without better skill position players, what's the point? I think drafting Jarrett from USC or Quinn if he drops would pay greater dividens versus drafting a lineman.

 

[PhinGeneral]

I don't think drafting a lineman is the best thing at #9. I subscribe to the Jimmy Johnson philosophy; unless that lineman is an absolute lock (e.g. Ferguson last year) than why waste a high pick on someone who won't directly score any points? You can have the best blocking in the world but without better skill position players, what's the point? I think drafting Jarrett from USC or Quinn if he drops would pay greater dividens versus drafting a lineman.

There are a lot of people in the NFL that share that view, including Randy Mueller. I would think that having a master coach and teacher like Hudson Houck would even make Miami think less about doing it.

The wildcard in all of this is Anthony Alabi. He was a project when he was drafted, and now it should be time to either cash in or move on. I'd love to know where the coaching staff stands on him.

 

[paulomac77]

why draft a WR thats never going to be a #1 reciever with the #9 spot, samardja would have been the best wideout for us to take had he staid in the draft, i dont see jarrett being any better than chambers at this point in fact nowhere near CC's level also we'll have ronnie brown and ricky in the backfield next year and with cam opening up the offense just like he did in san diego im not worried about our skill players, i agree depth needs to be addressed, especially at WR since after next year booker and welker prolly wont be in the picture anymore and unless hagan has a breakout year that will most likely need to be the #1 priority going into the 2008 season....the only WR in the draft this year thats gonna be a #1 guy is calvin johnson, bowe might have success and meachem could be a solid contributor throughout his career but jarrett is overly impressive like calvin johnson is and ginn will only get the ball on screens, slants or KR, certainly not enough to change the way the offense runs

 

[oldfinfan]

The dolphins had the most dissappointing year of any team in the NFL, which only means we're drafting earlier than we should be and that we're not that far off from being a championship contender in the AFC. In order for that too happen we need a player/players that are ready to step onto the field and contribute, we dont need a nickle CB (leon Hall) we've got enough of those, okoye might be the best DL to come out of this draft but that might not be until 3 years down the road, and we certainly shouldnt draft a player at the #9 spot based partially on his KR potential(ted ginn).... although CB, DL, and WR/KR/PR are all priorities that should and probably will be addressed in the draft this april, i dont think these players are the guys that will take us to the next level....IMO we need to make OL our highest priority and although levi brown probably doesnt deserve to be drafted as high as #9, he is the next best OL besides joe thomas,... in the second round we will be lucky to see kalil or joe staley on the board but if we do we would be crazy to pass on them, in this league you can't get by with 5 good o-linemen, u have to have at least 6 maybe 7 that u can plug into the game if injurys cripple the OL....beyond the OL our secondary has to improve, the best way to do that is probably through FA's and trying to land either A.Samual or Clements in south beach... say what you will about the aging DL, at least theres talent on the DL, theres not one playmaker in the secondary with the occassional exception of Y.bell.

My 3 round mock

1st round- trade down w/ STL and pick up another 3rd or 4th round pick so they can draft hall, draft levi brown at #13 or take d. revis the CB from Pitt
2nd round- take kalil if available or take bowe from LSU or meachem if one of them falls on draft day
3rd round- take stanton if he's on the board and if not go BPA at either S,DL,OL, or WR assuming we havnt taken a wideout yet...eric weddle from utah, anthony spencer from purdue, james marten from BC or scott chandler the TE from iowa
....take BPA regardless of position with the extra pick from the trade with the Rams

Why does everyone keep thinking that trading down is something the Dolphins can control.

Usually, its the other way around...a team wants to move up and tries to strike a deal with a team picking ahead of them.

Even if we were able to trade down (only 4 slots), I still would not pick an OL, specially not Brown. All the articles I read about him is that he's "solid", but certainly not a "blue-chipper".

Go after the skill positions...I still would like to get a WR with # 9...someone like Jarrett or Ginn would greatly enhance our offense and get us on the right track to respectibility.

 

[Kyndig]

I don't think drafting a lineman is the best thing at #9. I subscribe to the Jimmy Johnson philosophy; unless that lineman is an absolute lock (e.g. Ferguson last year) than why waste a high pick on someone who won't directly score any points? You can have the best blocking in the world but without better skill position players, what's the point? I think drafting Jarrett from USC or Quinn if he drops would pay greater dividens versus drafting a lineman.

That very philosophy is the whole reason that we've had a poor to medicore Offensive line from the time JJ got to Miami till this day. The best o-lineman we have is vernon carey. Guess which round he was drafted in? O-lineman is also a very safe position to draft in terms of boom/bust ratio, so if we want help now on the side of the ball that needs it most, then it sounds like a good idea to me to invest some of our early round picks on the O-line. Of course your point is valid, and I wouldn't mind seeing us perhaps drafting a receiver as well, and a developmental QB, but we can no longer afford to not invest some early round picks in our o-line, a philosophy that has gotten us nowhere...

 

[jlfin]

That very philosophy is the whole reason that we've had a poor to medicore Offensive line from the time JJ got to Miami till this day. The best o-lineman we have is vernon carey. Guess which round he was drafted in? O-lineman is also a very safe position to draft in terms of boom/bust ratio, so if we want help now on the side of the ball that needs it most, then it sounds like a good idea to me to invest some of our early round picks on the O-line. Of course your point is valid, and I wouldn't mind seeing us perhaps drafting a receiver as well, and a developmental QB, but we can no longer afford to not invest some early round picks in our o-line, a philosophy that has gotten us nowhere...

How many top 10 picks do you see on the O-line of the Broncos or Chiefs? Not many

 

[Piker]

please just wait till after the combine for all this draft talk. The combine will tell us a lot more about these players. Ronnie brown's stock rose big time after the combine.

 

[The Confessor]

I don't think drafting a lineman is the best thing at #9. I subscribe to the Jimmy Johnson philosophy; unless that lineman is an absolute lock (e.g. Ferguson last year) than why waste a high pick on someone who won't directly score any points? You can have the best blocking in the world but without better skill position players, what's the point? I think drafting Jarrett from USC or Quinn if he drops would pay greater dividens versus drafting a lineman.

Thats it my friend. You are absolutely right. Actually, not even many lineman thought to be first round worthy pan out-much less top 10 material.

If somebody were to appproach with the original scenario painted in this thread, I think Mueller would really have to think it over.
Of course, just to point out the obvious, it is all relevant to who is still on the board when 9 comes up....:wink:

 

[VT Dolphan]

please just wait till after the combine for all this draft talk. The combine will tell us a lot more about these players. Ronnie brown's stock rose big time after the combine.

People put way too much imortance on the Combine. The NFL isn't a flag football league, its played with pads and helmets. Pick players that perform the best during games wearing pads, not the Combine wearing shorts and under armour....

It should be used as a way to separate two players who would otherwise grade out about the same. Too often freakish athletes who are only decent football players elevate their draft status way too high and our considered busts when they fail to live up to expectations. Whereas great football players who were deemed too small or slow at the Combine often slip in the draft, succeed and are considered steals...

 

[IluvJuMiami]

If Quinn falls to 9 it's automatic.

Passing on Ginn Jr could be like passing up on a Devin Hester/Reggie Bush. Look what those guys did for their teams when they touched the ball and they were only on the field half the time. When was the last time the Miami Dolphins had a game-changer, one guy who could single handedly beat a football team?

A solid OT could be had in the 2nd round.

We don't need DL help with Roth, Evans, Rod Wright, and Vickerson sitting unused on the bench.