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seriously what was nick thinking, have faith in your punter. 8 yrd punt come on now!! I could stretch my legs longer than 8yds:D .
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1. USE WELKER more as a receiver, we saw what he did on that pass that got called back. He is our best weapon ala chrebet back in the day for the stinkers.

2. if griese would have stayed in the game I think galloway would have made it into the hall of fame. This is the 2nd game this year where we get lit up by 1 receiver (s. smith) and cannot do anything to stop it. Sorry guys i have no solution for this maybe mare can play corner j/k.
 
thephinger said:
seriously what was nick thinking, have faith in your punter. 8 yrd punt come on now!! I could stretch my legs longer than 8yds:D .
2 more notes
1. USE WELKER more as a receiver, we saw what he did on that pass that got called back. He is our best weapon ala chrebet back in the day for the stinkers.

2. if griese would have stayed in the game I think galloway would have made it into the hall of fame. This is the 2nd game this year where we get lit up by 1 receiver (s. smith) and cannot do anything to stop it. Sorry guys i have no solution for this maybe mare can play corner j/k.
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Has anyone heard an explanation for using Mare? Was D. Jones hurt? I'm very interested in what the thinking was on that one...
 
thephinger said:
seriously what was nick thinking, have faith in your punter. 8 yrd punt come on now!! I could stretch my legs longer than 8yds:D .
2 more notes
1. USE WELKER more as a receiver, we saw what he did on that pass that got called back. He is our best weapon ala chrebet back in the day for the stinkers.

2. if griese would have stayed in the game I think galloway would have made it into the hall of fame. This is the 2nd game this year where we get lit up by 1 receiver (s. smith) and cannot do anything to stop it. Sorry guys i have no solution for this maybe mare can play corner j/k.
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Mare's shank was the least of our concerns yesterday. Perhaps if we'd have picked up some FIRST DOWNS, we wouldn't have to talk about a shank.

Welker will get more opportunities. Saban seemed to hint toward that in his press conference.

The fact that our secondary is weak is no secret. What made matters worse was the fact that, besides the two sacks (one on a blitz by Thomas) there was absolutely NO PRESSURE whatsoever.
 
DCFinFan said:
Has anyone heard an explanation for using Mare? Was D. Jones hurt? I'm very interested in what the thinking was on that one...
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No explanation so far. In fact, I think Saban was surprised. After Mare kicked it, Saban walked over to the special teams coach and seemed to be saying WTF was that???!!!
 
I have no idea what the reasoning behind that was. The only logic I could come up with is that Donnie Jones struggles when it comes to getting the ball inside the 20 or better because he is not so accurate and his power usually takes the ball into the endzone for a touchback so I'm guessing they hoping Mare could execute a short accurate punt that could down the ball maybe inside the 15 or 10 or perhaps even better. I'm sure Nick and our Coaching Staff weren't anticipating an 8 yard punt, but turned out to be a bad experiment gone wrong... that's the only reasoning I could honestly see behind the call, just my personal opinion. It could have been that Donnie Jones had tweaked somethingl, but I haven't heard anything about him being injured.
 
SCall13 said:
No explanation so far. In fact, I think Saban was surprised. After Mare kicked it, Saban walked over to the special teams coach and seemed to be saying WTF was that???!!!
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Agreed. It looked like Saban was letting the guy have it for such a BS call.
 
One of the possible explanations was that they were trying to pin the Bucs back very close to their own end zone. By bringing Mare in they made the Bucs treat it as a field goal and not put anyone back to receive. Then Mare punts and we are in great position to down it within the 5-10 yard line.

I don't get it though. When you are so close, you should just be able to convert length to hang-time. Donnie should be able to put it way up high and land it on the 10-yard line. The receiver shouldn't have time to do anything and have to make a fair catch.

Granted, I don't think DJ can do it. I'm regularly surprised by how bad the punting is in this league. Punters can't seem to get it within 30 yards of where they want, and it's not just us. The coffin-corner seems to be a lost art, and punters don't even try to pin the returner against the sideline. When they are punting from within their own territory they seem completely unable to keep from kicking touchbacks. I know that punting isn't an exact science but it just doesn't seem like modern punters have any skills beyond leg strength.

Of course we're ignoring the big question: why not just kick the field goal? Mare kicked one of the same length minutes later. If your tactics include passing up opportunities to score then something is wrong with your tactics. Frankly I'd rather see 60-70 yard FG attempts than hail mary's. Kickers make them in practice, and the league record is 63. That's a field goal from your opponent's 46-yard line. With a few seconds left in the half I'd be kicking it from anywhere forward of my own 47.
 
SCall13 said:
No explanation so far. In fact, I think Saban was surprised. After Mare kicked it, Saban walked over to the special teams coach and seemed to be saying WTF was that???!!!
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Doesnt Saban have to approve of the calls?
 
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