And we ran the ball more than Minnesota in that game.
The Miami Dolphins are looking to replace a quarterback. But it won’t be Ryan Tannehill
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And we ran the ball more than Minnesota in that game.
And?
We ran it one more time (28 vs 29) and threw it 21 more times (26 vs 47). So, Minn ran it more than they threw it and Miami threw it much more than they ran it.
Did you think I wouldn't check?
Dajesus
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Winston is 24, and not coming off missing the past 20 games. Carr is 26 and didn't miss the past 20 games. Ryan is 30, and missed the past 20 games. Luck would be comparable because he has missed a season, but it doesn't apply because the Colts traded a 2nd round pick for Brissett, a viable back up QB that we do not have.
Carr and Luck have proven to have more upside than Ryan to make their respective teams have more faith. Luck has been an MVP candidate, 3x pro bowler, and lead his team to AFC championship game. Carr has been a pro bowler, and took his team to 12-3 record in 2016. Ryan's best season he was 8-5 with 19tds and 12ints and was sacked 29x.
This post isn't debating if Ryan is good. Its addressing the fact we have a 30 year old QB who hasn't played in 20 games, and no back up on our roster, and just lost a full season for making this mistake in 2017.
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Two injury events are not what people worry about or are what they are talking about here, especially when the second was a non-contact injury. What people worry about is the need for a second repair of the same part of the body -- something that is NOT AN ISSUE here. The fact that his doctors cleared him to play after a rehab based plan doesn't make the second occurrence of the injury a bigger deal -- it just means that they rolled the dice and it came up craps and instead of saving time and getting on the field faster, he lost another year.
I agree with all of your takes on the risk profile of Tannehill's injury and recovery for the team. Tannehill has proven over years that it should be treated as a minimal risk.
With that in mind, we turn to the draft. At 11 (or even trading up), is it worth drafting a QB? It's only worth it if you feel you can draft someone you believe offers significantly more upside than Tannehill has shown (high average, middle of the pack above average QB play), fits your offensive system (or is so good that you're willing to retool to suite the QB), has a college track record that you believe in, and doesn't have anything in their profile that increases the already crazy risk (attitude, mechanics, an area of stat that isn't up to snuff, etc.) of picking at 11. Otherwise, we should be looking at a cheap veteran and/or drafting a high risk/reward type in the middle to late rounds.
Our team, with the large number of missing pieces, can't afford to throw away a high round pick for a high risk player. High, first round picks HAVE to make it onto the field or you are setting the team backward in a big way. Everyone is rightly pointing to the Jags who got better by having years of good success with high level picks.
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Trade down in the first round. Go lb in 1, qb and te in 2, g/g or g s/lb hybrid in 3rd.
LOL. Brissett led the team to a 4-11 record. If the Dolphins had gone 4-12 with Matt Moore, would you be claiming his is a viable backup QB?
Proven how?
How did Carr do in 2017 when his OL wasn't among the league's best? What is WInston's career record?
So draft a QB in the 3rd round or sign a FA QB.
Dajesus
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You might want to look in to that, as in 2016 only 4 NFL teams ran the ball more times than Miami, 464 attempts, and we averaged 140ypg(3rd highest in the NFL). This year zero teams ran the ball less than us with 360 atempts for 86 ypg. Obviously in 2016 we were a run first team.
Strongly, strongly disagree.
Take Indy, TB, and the Raiders off that list...and we're close.
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Miami was 19th in the NFL in rushing attempts per game in 2016.
Miami threw the ball more than they ran it.
That’s not a Run first team.
You are missing my point. I was simply trying to point out the inconsistency with which posters treat the QB position. If (as the poster was doing), you advocate taking a QB at 11 as an insurance policy in case Tannehill doesn't fully recover or because Tannehill hasn't proven anything yet, then those teams have to be on the list. I don't think any of the three should be but I don't Miami should either.
Indy, in particular, is in a much tougher spot that the Dolphins. Last reports were that Luck is still not throwing and went to Europe to get treatment that isn't available in the US. That does not sound good.
I'm simply trying to get a consistent line of reasoning from people.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/...empts/position/defense/year/2016/seasontype/2
The 5th most rushing attempts in the NFL in 2016. Every NFL team these days has more pass attempts than rushing attempts, but when you are top 5 in rushing attempts and averaging 140ypg on the groun you are obviously a run orientated team. Gase was on record saying after week 5 of 2016 he slowed down the offense and started to rely more on the run. Oh yeah our RB had the 4th most yards in the NFL dispite barely playing in the first 5 games. We went 9-2 because Jay Ajayi emerged as a force. If that isn’t obviousl to you I would suggest watching football.
Punctuation is yours. Also, if you’re going to correct someone’s spelling, you might want to proofread. “Yourn?”
That makes sense. And yes, I missed your point.
This is the best analogy I can think of. Perfect, really.