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The New York Jets may determine our playoff fate.

Kamikaze

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Yeah, I said it. What I'm writing will make a few assumptions, such as the Dolphins going 10-6 this season. However, that's what we honestly need to do to get into the playoffs at all. So I'll make my bold prediction right here. The New York Jets will be the team that decides the playoff fate of a 10-6 Miami Dolphins team.

Now, at 3-6 it seems totally ridiculous to even be discussing it, but the Fins still have an outside shot at the playoffs. They are better positioned this season to sneak in, but it's still gonna take the Fins needing to run the table, along with some help from some other teams.

First, let's discuss the AFC East. The Patriots are indeed the team to beat, as they carry a 6-3 record and a 4-1 division. record. What does this mean? The Dolphins lose the tiebreaker against the Pats already. The Fins are 0-3 in the division. The Pats would have to finish with a 9-7 record, and I just don't see that kind of collapse happening to them, even as depleted of offensive talent as they are now. Even supposing a Pats collapse, the Jets still stand in the way. However, we CAN get away with matching their record, because at best both teams will have a 3-3 division record. That moves things to conference record, which the Jets have a small advantage in, but assuming even that's tied it goes onto common opponents, and it just gets to complicated to talk about this far from the end of the season. The Bills are not in the equation, because even though they have the same 3-6 record as Miami, the Fins still have yet to play them, and by virtue of needing to run the table to even have a hope of the playoffs, will automatically finish with a better record.

What does all that mean in short? Winning the AFC East is just short of impossible.

Let's move to the wildcard situation, a more realistic possibility. There are two spots available, so let's look at records.

San Diego (7-2)
Kansas City (5-4)
Jacksonville (5-4)
NY Jets (5-4)
Cincinnati (4-5)
Buffalo (3-6)
Houston (3-6)
Cleveland (3-6)
Pittsburgh (3-6)
Miami (3-6)

San Diego is a virtual lock for that 1st wild card spot at this point. Let's assume they get it (and probably will anyway). With only one spot left open, things look grim indeed for the Dolphins. First, let's assume that teams like Cleveland, Buffalo, and Houston will fall off the radar, as they are all mediocre teams and will likely do so anyway. First, let's go to those critical tiebreakers. Assuming the Dolphins run the table to finish at 10-6, they will have some key tiebreakers going for them. By beating Kansas City and Jacksonville, they automatically win any tiebreakers against them. The Jets situation will be the same as above, so if the Jets lose two more games, they had better be to AFC teams, and better yet AFC East teams. Cincinnati would almost certainly have a tiebreaker on Miami, since they have a much superior conference record. Pittsburgh beat Miami in Week 1, so if Pittsburgh goes off and runs the table the same as Miami, the Steelers get in over Miami.

Let's try to break it all down. Assuming Miami finishes 10-6 the following needs to happen. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Houston, and Buffalo all need to lose just once. Easy enough. Cincy needs to lose just two more games. Again, easy enough. This leaves us with the Jets, Jags, and Chiefs on the surface all needing to lose 3 games each, but Miami is in favorable position tie-breaker wise with these teams anyway. If the Jags and Chiefs only manage 5 more wins this season, guess what? Miami has the tiebreaker against both. This leaves only the pesky Jets. And the Jets may end up proving to be the team that prevents the Dolphins from getting in. Because if the Jets can beat the Bills again (very likely), they will automatically have a tiebreaker against Miami due to better division record. The Jets pretty much have to go 4-3 the rest of the way. And thus, the Jets are the big X-factor in the playoff hunt.

Oh, the Jets also have one other role to play. They could still very well win the AFC East (but must have a better record than the Pats). If they did so at say, 11-5, that means the Pats would have to finish at 10-6. Oh look, the Fins are assumed to be 10-6 as well. Oh, also look, the Patriots already have a better division record.

Conclusion: Assuming the Dolphins can run the table, the New York Jets will almost assuredly determine their playoff fate. Of course, any number of other teams can still ruin it all for us, including ourselves by losing another game, but the Jets by all accounts seem to be in prime position to be the one team to deny us the playoffs.

Oh yeah, flame away!
 
Kamikaze said:
The Bills are not in the equation, because even though they have the same 3-6 record as Miami, the Fins still have yet to play them, and by virtue of needing to run the table to even have a hope of the playoffs, will automatically finish with a better record.

We played the Bills in week 2, at home. We lost 16-6.
 
Well, it's really too early to be breaking it all down because in all honesty anything could happen at this point. I don't think the Jet's have the talent to be consistent and they only have to lose 2 more, 1 which will be against us. And I would not wish an injury on anyone but if Tom Brady is hurt and Vinny T takes over in New England they very well could lose 4 more games before this season is over. Even if Brady stays in, they lost to the Jets! The only thing thats a given is that in all reality this division is there for the taking...it will be hard for the Phins to do it, but they seem to play better when the odds are insurmountably against them so I think we have a pretty good shot here. May the best man win!
 
Kamikaze said:
However, we CAN get away with matching their record, because at best both teams will have a 3-3 division record.

This is where you are incorrect, if the Jets lose to Miami, but beat the Bills, they will be 4-2 in the AFC East. If they lose to both of us then we would be tied at 3-3. The next factor determining is common opponents. There are 8 common opponents. Miami is 2-2 so far, and the Jets are 2-1 so far in common opponents. Our best shot is to have the Jets lose one more game than us and go 9-7.
 
Pocoloco said:
We played the Bills in week 2, at home. We lost 16-6.

And we still have one more game to play against them, which is what I meant. And since I'm assuming we go 10-6, there's no way the Bills can finish with a better record than us if that happens.
 
bluehaze said:
Well, it's really too early to be breaking it all down because in all honesty anything could happen at this point. I don't think the Jet's have the talent to be consistent and they only have to lose 2 more, 1 which will be against us. And I would not wish an injury on anyone but if Tom Brady is hurt and Vinny T takes over in New England they very well could lose 4 more games before this season is over. Even if Brady stays in, they lost to the Jets! The only thing thats a given is that in all reality this division is there for the taking...it will be hard for the Phins to do it, but they seem to play better when the odds are insurmountably against them so I think we have a pretty good shot here. May the best man win!
Read my post above, I honestly think they have to lose 3, because tie- breaker with them will be tough to come up ahead.
 
JayCee said:
This is where you are incorrect, if the Jets lose to Miami, but beat the Bills, they will be 4-2 in the AFC East. If they lose to both of us then we would be tied at 3-3. The next factor determining is common opponents. There are 8 common opponents. Miami is 2-2 so far, and the Jets are 2-1 so far in common opponents. Our best shot is to have the Jets lose one more game than us and go 9-7.

You're right, and that actually strengthens my point about the Jets screwing with our playoff chances.
 
Kamikaze said:
You're right, and that actually strengthens my point about the Jets screwing with our playoff chances.

I agree, and they only play 1 team with a winning record in the next 7 games. Although by the time they get to us, I hope will be 2 teams. Still I am hoping that they break down like we did in first half of season. Even better that both them and the Patriots break down! Like they say Any Given Sunday!
 
JayCee said:
I agree, and they only play 1 team with a winning record in the next 7 games. Although by the time they get to us, I hope will be 2 teams. Still I am hoping that they break down like we did in first half of season. Even better that both them and the Patriots break down! Like they say Any Given Sunday!

The Bears should easily hand them another loss, and we pretty much have to hand them one as well. Minnesota, Green Bay, even Buffalo has a chance to beat them. But if the Jets should upset the Bears this weekend, things won't be looking so good.
 
JayCee said:
Read my post above, I honestly think they have to lose 3, because tie- breaker with them will be tough to come up ahead.

Guess I didn't word it correctly, I meant they lose 2 more and 1 against us which is pretty much a given if we are still undefeated in this streak before we get to them.
 
ahhh this is way to crazy, i think we need to win 2 more times before we start writing out scenerios.
 
Kamikaze said:
The Bears should easily hand them another loss, and we pretty much have to hand them one as well. Minnesota, Green Bay, even Buffalo has a chance to beat them. But if the Jets should upset the Bears this weekend, things won't be looking so good.

Agreed... I see it being the BEARS, BILLS, if the PACK doesn't do it, the VIKINGS and then the DOLPHINS...
 
FinsAreLife said:
ahhh this is way to crazy, i think we need to win 2 more times before we start writing out scenerios.

Werd, I don't even see how this is even being brought up with a team that is 3 games under .500 who needs to be probably 4 games over .500 to make the playoffs. That is a seven game turnaround in exactly 7 games to do it. I think people don't realize the task until u break it down like that. I like the one game at a time philosophy much better. Forget about the playoffs, I'm just happy on Sundays now, if we make the playoffs . . . that would be fantastic . . . but I just wanna win games.
 
bluehaze said:
Guess I didn't word it correctly, I meant they lose 2 more and 1 against us which is pretty much a given if we are still undefeated in this streak before we get to them.
I hope it pans out our way also when it's all said and done! I know alot of things have to happen, and we have to concentrate on us every week, but as long as our hope is still alive, I'll keep on hoping.
 
Kamikaze said:
And we still have one more game to play against them, which is what I meant. And since I'm assuming we go 10-6, there's no way the Bills can finish with a better record than us if that happens.

No,its NOT what you meant. You stated the Bills are not in the equation because the Dolphins have yet to play them. Thats what you meant.

The Bills are not in the equation, because even though they have the same 3-6 record as Miami, the Fins still have yet to play them
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By these standards the Dolphins have "yet" to play all their upcoming opponents.
 
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