The Pseudo-Tannenbaum Mythology Index

[Spesh]

Im too drunk and indifferent to do a full one at the moment. But if the idiocy continues i'll do so. Heres random ****:

Draft

2006:

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2011:

2012:

Contracts

Darrelle Revis: After a brief hold out, signed a 6 year $36 million contract as a rookie. Held out again in 2010 before being handed a new deal. Skipped some offseason stuff in 2012 in order to get another contract. Traded after Tannenbaum was fired, in large part because of the contract.

Mark Sanchez:

Tannenbaum -- who repeatedly talked about "falling short" in New York -- explained why the Jets re-signed Sanchez to the five-year, $58.25 million deal that now has the team wandering salary-cap purgatory.

"My core belief has always been, let's try to draft as many of our good players as we can -- the core -- and sign them to extensions when it makes sense for both sides. So, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Darrelle Revis, Nick Mangold. And again, here's a guy that beat Tom Brady in a road playoff game, beat Peyton Manning on the road -- so these are not hopes, these are not projections. These are real wins in the NFL.


"(Sanchez) was a young guy, football's important to him, and we came up with a deal at the time that we thought was good for both sides. Obviously, he didn't play as well this year, we didn't coach as well this year, we didn't get him as good players this year. But if we're sitting here a year or two from now, I still think Mark's going to be a good, credible quarterback in the NFL."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-tannenbaum-reflects-on-mark-sanchez-contract

Coaching hires

Eric Mangini: 23-25 as the Jets coach

Rex Ryan: 34-30 under Tannenbaum. Its worth noting Rex went 12-20 the following 2 seasons with the roster Tannenbaum had largely assembled.

This should go without saying, but i feel the need to point Mike Tannenbaum did not build a Superbowl winning roster.

Definitive reasons not to trust Tannenbaum

Miami Dolphins Owner Stephen Ross Hires former Jets Exec Mike Tannenbaum to VP of Football Operations

http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/1/...phen-ross-plans-to-hire-former-jets-exec-mike

 

[FearTheBeard]

Draft record is alright, if he just valued picks at all and didn't trade them all away. My hope is with the work Aponte does, that we can build a solid core while staying out of the cap hell he found himself in New York. Also think the days of the small schoolers are over...and I'm happy about that.

 

[BobDole]

Draft record is alright, if he just valued picks at all and didn't trade them all away. My hope is with the work Aponte does, that we can build a solid core while staying out of the cap hell he found himself in New York. Also think the days of the small schoolers are over...and I'm happy about that.

7 for 41 (being generous) isn't what I call an alright draft record. And that doesn't even factor in the picks he pissed away. He is the opposite of good. Prepare for more suck

 

[dolphindan]

That 2012 draft was awful

 

[FearTheBeard]

7 for 41 (being generous) isn't what I call an alright draft record. And that doesn't even factor in the picks he pissed away. He is the opposite of good. Prepare for more suck

I'd say 12/41 as solid or contributors. Alright isn't great, but with a full allotment of draft picks in year 1 he got impact guys. 41 picks in 7 years doesn't give you much room for error. His late picks are generally garbage, but lots of impact guys near the top. Got worse over time. I'll take some playoff appearances after the garbage we've had to watch this millennium. I'll at least wait and see who he brings in before making my judgments.

That 2012 draft was awful

Awful may be a compliment.

 

[Spesh]

Draft record is alright, if he just valued picks at all and didn't trade them all away. My hope is with the work Aponte does, that we can build a solid core while staying out of the cap hell he found himself in New York. Also think the days of the small schoolers are over...and I'm happy about that.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Definitive reasons not to trust Tannenbaum



http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/1/...phen-ross-plans-to-hire-former-jets-exec-mike

:sidelol:

 

[FearTheBeard]

Say what you will about this dumpster fire organization, but Aponte does great work with contracts. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell ya.

Also I was hardly endorsing Tannenbaum's efforts. Just willing to see what he does before publicly executing him.

 

[BobDole]

I'd say 12/41 as solid or contributors. Alright isn't great, but with a full allotment of draft picks in year 1 he got impact guys. 41 picks in 7 years doesn't give you much room for error. His late picks are generally garbage, but lots of impact guys near the top. Got worse over time. I'll take some playoff appearances after the garbage we've had to watch this millennium. I'll at least wait and see who he brings in before making my judgments.



Awful may be a compliment.

I thought I was being generous with 7. What 5 was I missing?

The reason he didn't have much room for error was because he pissed away so many picks ... for **** players no less. 100% on him as well.

Not being critical of you but I just don't see how someone who so clearly sent a franchise into a nose dive gets a clean slate and an opportunity to do it all over again. Yet here we are ...

 

[FearTheBeard]

I thought I was being generous with 7. What 5 was I missing?

The reason he didn't have much room for error was because he pissed away so many picks ... for **** players no less. 100% on him as well.

Not being critical of you but I just don't see how someone who so clearly sent a franchise into a nose dive gets a clean slate and an opportunity to do it all over again. Yet here we are ...

Haha I said that about the picks for players!

Ferguson, Mankins, Revis, Harris were great.

Brad Smith, Leon Washington, Keller, Lowery, Greene, Ellis, Powell were contributors.

So I guess 11. And I didn't give him the clean slate, and he shouldn't have been the hire. But it's what we got, and we might as well see what he does first.

 

[dlockz]

Say what you will about this dumpster fire organization, but Aponte does great work with contracts. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell ya.

Also I was hardly endorsing Tannenbaum's efforts. Just willing to see what he does before publicly executing him.

I dont see her contracts as any better than any other team and for most part no worse but nothing specia;

 

[FearTheBeard]

I dont see her contracts as any better than any other team and for most part no worse but nothing specia;

She doesn't do it any better than the best, but she does better than most. Few teams blow the resources we do in FA and can enter each offseason with flexibility like we do. You can look at New Orleans, Baltimore, Denver, Detroit. She does good work.

 

[dlockz]

She doesn't do it any better than the best, but she does better than most. Few teams blow the resources we do in FA and can enter each offseason with flexibility like we do. You can look at New Orleans, Baltimore, Denver, Detroit. She does good work.

Peronally I think if she did such good work we wouldnt have had the second highest dead cap money in the league this year.
Danell Ellerbee horrible contract
Mike Wallace horrible contract
Dion Jordon offset language but way too much guaranteed
Suh's contract definately nothing special

What contracts did she do that were so good outside of Tannehill

 

[mnphinfan]

Peronally I think if she did such good work we wouldnt have had the second highest dead cap money in the league this year.
Danell Ellerbee horrible contract
Mike Wallace horrible contract
Dion Jordon offset language but way too much guaranteed
Suh's contract definately nothing special

What contracts did she do that were so good outside of Tannehill

Although I belive she has no business evaluating players, i think a lot of those horrible contract amounts can be attributed to a certain GM negotiating the amounts in the contract, "cough, Ireland, cough" for more than players were worth, and their lack of talent showed them the door. It could actually be a lot worse, which is something to think about.

 

[datruth55]

That's a lot of picks traded away. There was another guy here that traded a lot of picks away and was bad at drafting (which is why he traded so many picks for players)...Dave Wannstedt...the guy that started the Dolphins down the road of destruction.