The Reggie Bush criticism starts early in Miami

[damanref10]

Final numbers dont mean crap.
He looked great on the first drive of the game, gotta give credit where credit is due.

But he was INEFFICIENT.
On a per touch basis he was below average in any statistical measure.

11 Carries for 38 yards.... thats about what 3.4 ypc? and besides one big 13 yard run... his average plummets to 2.5 yards per carry.
The 9 receptions for 56 yards is average. a tad over 6 yards per catch, but there were moments where instead of putting his head down and picking up a few more yards, it was old reggie east west.

The touchdown was a nice play, great athleticism. But a garbage time TD ... lets be real.

The truth is, any schlub can get 3.5 yards per carry... if Reggie has any chance to survive the season, we need to let DT or even Larry Johnson take the pounding, and pick up below average rushing yardage while preserving Reggie.

He can get you 50 yards rushing and 50 yards receiving.... your just going to have to cover up the number of attempts it will take to get those yards with your hand in the box score.

 

[hightempo]

Well, that didn’t take long.After getting lauded for his work ethic throughout camp, Reggie Bush was criticized at length in a column Tuesday morning in the Miami Herald. Saints fans are rather familiar with the trend: A big August followed by an underwhelming September.Bush’s numbers weren’t that bad. He had 11 rushes for 38 yards and caught nine passes for 56 yards, including a garbage time score.The problem was more that Bush failed to make any big plays when he had the chance and had too many runs that didn’t go anywhere. (His last nine carries got 18 yards.) He also wasn’t an option in goal line situations, where the Dolphins were stuffed a few times.One arm tackle by Albert Haynesworth on Bush was perhaps the most telling play. Miami didn’t try to run Bush inside after that.“The apparent truth is that Bush really wasn’t built for this, even if you wanted to believe otherwise, and I, like many, did,” Israel Gutierrez wrote.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/13/the-reggie-bush-criticism-starts-early-in-miami/

can we please avoid running this talented player out of town as well please? like we did with ginn? because we are uneducated ignorant fans sometimes?

this guy might not put up huge numbers. but he is going to be a tremendous asset regardless of his numbers. its on us to use him correctly. and if we are going to run him inside. he needs holes. maybe more space than some running backs. please no negativity toward this guy. he is a player. tedd ginn was a player. it was our staffs fault for not using him correctly. and our fan bases fault for creating expectations for the guy we never should have had. so what where he was drafted. he could have helped this team. leave bush alone. let the guy play.

 

[FinHopeful]

Bush played well. I do not get this thread.

 

[datruth55]

no doubt...we're slow and stiff at guard and right tackle...but you aren't gonna get enough push inside against the wilforks and the other tough nosed inside players in this league running reggie bush inside...it won't happen...we wasted downs...i know you got to run it some to keep em honest but reggie bush going forward shouldn't be the guy

and whoever called that fade to brian hartline on 4th down...seriously...if i was henne and that play came in my headset i'd look to the sideline and tell em to **** off...what a waste of a play...why in gods green earth would you ever throw a fade to soft *** brian hartline...i don't care if its the single coverage read or not...**** that...terrible call...i don't even know why you line hartline up and have him even run it...its a damn joke

our inability to run the ball on the goalline is gonna doom us...just a matter of time

I know Gates is a rookie but I would have prefered him out there over Hartline. Gates is a former basketball player and has a 40" vertical, it's a jump ball play, let him go get it.

 

[hoops]

can we please avoid running this talented player out of town as well please? like we did with ginn? because we are uneducated ignorant fans sometimes?

this guy might not put up huge numbers. but he is going to be a tremendous asset regardless of his numbers. its on us to use him correctly. and if we are going to run him inside. he needs holes. maybe more space than some running backs. please no negativity toward this guy. he is a player. tedd ginn was a player. it was our staffs fault for not using him correctly. and our fan bases fault for creating expectations for the guy we never should have had. so what where he was drafted. he could have helped this team. leave bush alone. let the guy play.

you got that right if you think ted ginn was a player...

 

[Jamaicankid21]

Idk what people are expecting from Reggie. I was expecting him to come in, be a 8-12 carry guy, and come in as a check down kind of player.. to help Henne out and create mismatches with the defense.. I didn't think Bush was too bad. Not stellar but was pretty decent..

 

[hoops]

i think reggies fine but we got to use him right...running him between the tackles with these awful guards of ours isn't the answer...we're putting wear on him that will catch up in short order...


figure out ways to get him the ball in space and i don't mean some boring *** out of the backfield stuff you see teams implement just about every rb in...use motion etc to get him good matchups and exploit them...not just a safety valve for henne

 

[hightempo]

you got that right if you think ted ginn was a player...

and if u think he isnt i guess 2 plus 2 doesnt equal 4 in ur world. he doesnt have to be the second coming of calvin johnson to be a player. id settle for one of the 2 best returners in the game. guess you must be a davone bess punt returner homer. unreal

 

[SRM]

i think reggies fine but we got to use him right...running him between the tackles with these awful guards of ours isn't the answer...we're putting wear on him that will catch up in short order...


figure out ways to get him the ball in space and i don't mean some boring *** out of the backfield stuff you see teams implement just about every rb in...use motion etc to get him good matchups and exploit them...not just a safety valve for henne

Exactly.. and it would be nice to you know.. swap him out with another RB every now and then, even if that isn't DT. The dude was in on like every snap..

 

[overworkedirish]

Final numbers dont mean crap.
He looked great on the first drive of the game, gotta give credit where credit is due.

But he was INEFFICIENT.
On a per touch basis he was below average in any statistical measure.

11 Carries for 38 yards.... thats about what 3.4 ypc? and besides one big 13 yard run... his average plummets to 2.5 yards per carry.
The 9 receptions for 56 yards is average. a tad over 6 yards per catch, but there were moments where instead of putting his head down and picking up a few more yards, it was old reggie east west.

The touchdown was a nice play, great athleticism. But a garbage time TD ... lets be real.

The truth is, any schlub can get 3.5 yards per carry... if Reggie has any chance to survive the season, we need to let DT or even Larry Johnson take the pounding, and pick up below average rushing yardage while preserving Reggie.

He can get you 50 yards rushing and 50 yards receiving.... your just going to have to cover up the number of attempts it will take to get those yards with your hand in the box score.

O-LINE. OLINEOLINEOLINEOLINE.

I thought Reggie looked great last night; any inefficiency or lack of production seemed to be due to sh*tty O-line run-blocking, strong NE Wilfork Haynesworth combo, and somewhat bizarre offensive play-calling at times (this goes not just for Bush, but for goal-line Hilliard carries as well).

Lack of opportunity, not talent.

 

[hoops]

and if u think he isnt i guess 2 plus 2 doesnt equal 4 in ur world. he doesnt have to be the second coming of calvin johnson to be a player. id settle for one of the 2 best returners in the game. guess you must be a davone bess punt returner homer. unreal

if you lose outside contain against ted ginn you deserve to give up return tds...cause thats all he wants to do...bounce everything outside to avoid contact...beeline for the sideline

he was a scared of contact bum when he was here...ran more sideways than north and south...dropped more balls went to the ground to avoid all contact...player my ***

 

[Jersey DolFan]

this fan base SUCKS. ppl need to get OVER IT! The pats beat us by rolling over our defense over and over again. Yes - our O missed some key oppurtunities. but starting to nid pick things like Bush is just laughable. fans not showing up to games, constantly bashing every player on the team, constantly bashing the coach etc. is the kind of thing that is going to run any and every decent player out of town and what is gonig to run the Miami Dolphins out of town. get over it already. did you have money on the game? are you a member of the organization? its a GAME. we played pretty well on Offense and i am encouraged about the season. its FUN to watch FOOTBALL GAMES it is ENTERTAINMENT. u'd think and expect to have some serious over-reacting/complaints about the defense esp the pass rush which was HORRIBLE last night - but nid picking bush, henne's redzone, and his 3r down efficiency (how many penalties put him in 3rd and longs?) etc etc . . PLEASE! ppl are going nutts after one game cut me a break! these are the same ppl who prob screamed about johnson and wanny for all those years even though we were perenial contenders. i wonder if you screamed at dan and shula since they NEVER WON A CHAMPIONSHIP the last championship we won was in 1973! Nineteen Seventy Three!! comon! it was the pats . . they are a better team than us . im hoping for a playoff run b/c its FUN and ENJOYABLE! lets get ready for Houston.

 

[hoops]

Exactly.. and it would be nice to you know.. swap him out with another RB every now and then, even if that isn't DT. The dude was in on like every snap..

the problem we faced yesterday at least outside the tight red zone is we had to play reggie too much in the run game...we had no one else...larry johnsons way too slow to gain the corner anymore or get to the los timely he looks like a fullback with the ball in his hands and we got nothing else...hell maybe we should have given the ball to hilliard a little bit i guess...but either way no one scares the opposition as an inside runner...daniel thomas not playing was a big deal...but you know what...these guys as in this front office made their own bed here...now they got to lay in it

 

[SRM]

the problem we faced yesterday at least outside the tight red zone is we had to play reggie too much in the run game...we had no one else...larry johnsons way too slow to gain the corner anymore or get to the los timely he looks like a fullback with the ball in his hands and we got nothing else...hell maybe we should have given the ball to hilliard a little bit i guess...but either way no one scares the opposition as an inside runner...daniel thomas not playing was a big deal...but you know what...these guys as in this front office made their own bed here...now they got to lay in it

I'm not even sure what to make of the situation we've got going right now. 3 positions along the line are completely replaceable and who knows what we've got in DT and Reggie. I don't think it'll be fixed at all next season unless this regime is fired. We all know the O'line hasn't made any strides..

It's as if Tony was so passionate on his "enlightenment that the run game isn't the same in this league anymore" that he went full retard and decided the running game holds 0 importance now.

 

[JFoxx]

Reggie had an OK game. Problem is a multitude of things. Biggest and most obvious is he's not an every-down back. While he'll do ok for a few weeks, it will take it's toll on him over the course of the season and we'll be without any of his services. Secondly, our O-line has issues. And while he can pop one to the outside and get some serious yards, he's not going to be running over any DT's or MLB's. With Ronnie and Ricky gone, Thomas not up to snuff yet, and nothing really behind them . . . . it's going to be a long year rushing-wise. Our Def is the big issue. While there were some real positives, NE exposed that we have zero depth in the secondary. 3 and 4 WR sets, especially when our starting CB's were getting dinged up, killed us. And much like last year, we can't cover a TE.