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So yes we know when ricky comes back, him and ronnie will be used together... but obviously someone is going to get the bulk of the actual carries, and they wont always be in there together, in 1 back sets or with heath evans someone will get the majority of those opportunites...

now my question is do you think saban and linehan already know what they will probably do as for who gets the majority of the carries or is in the majority of formations? Or do you think it would change depending on ronnies performance against buffao?

So if ronnie struggles again does ricky come back and step into the number 1 RB role, or does ronnie keep the number 1 status regardless... or was it rickys #1 position originally to come back to, but if ronnie has another great performance he'll take over?

Thoughts?
 
Good question. I happen to think it's going to be similar to Dunn/Ducket. Kinda like 50/50. Would you say so?

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Well more like 55/45, but there will be times when Ronnie is playing FB or is lined up somewhere else. Also Split back formation.
 
I'd go with the hot hand while utilizing both players to keep each other fresh. A two headed monster is harder to defend and game plan for then using only one back for 75% of the game(s).
 
nando03 said:
Good question. I happen to think it's going to be similar to Dunn/Ducket. Kinda like 50/50. Would you say so?

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Well more like 55/45, but there will be times when Ronnie is playing FB or is lined up somewhere else. Also Split back formation.
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I personally think it will be 60/40...the 60 going to the RB that is most effective on that day.
 
I think we'll see Ricky get 75% of the carries out of the backfield, but I think we'll see them both in the game with Ronnie splitting out wide a lot too.
 
It will depend on the game situation and whose hot and whose not any given Sunday. I think Nick will use both players to the best of their abilities and for the best of the team as a whole. If that means one back gets more carries one week and the other gets more the next week, then so be it.
 
Well, I think that Ricky will be somewhat eased into the mix, (25% v. 75% for the first game or two) and then take over more carries (75% v. 25%) as the season wears on and then come later in the year (the last 4 games) particularly if we are still in the running, move back to more of a 50/50 split. That will allow Ronnie to get thru the rookie wall and be fresher for the late season run and possible p/o run. I do think that on first downs, once both are establish into a rotation, we'll see RB and RW in there and Brown may see more passing touches than RW...but it will be able to throw off the D, especially if Linehan can stay away from trends. It may either open up the short passing more (screens and dump offs) or open up the vertical passing game to Booker, Chambers and McMike...
 
good points here...

i agree its easy when someone gets hot to keep playing them... but in game 8 lets say by then ricky is back in teh groove, whos playing that first drive in single back sets? or whos getting the bulk of those carries in the first quarter? is it just who had the better past few games? i dont know how they'll figure it out and disperse it...

and also how often do you think we'll even see ricky and ronnie in the backfield together... we know ronnie can be a FB and block but you dont want your big investment acting as a fullback and getting pounded for a whole game, sure some situations is fine, but not all the time...

the more i think about how they can be used, the more confused i am about how the coaching staff will atually do it... im very curious and excited though
 
Im thinking that its going to be about 65-35 Ronnie for most of the year.

I also think theyre going to used together quite a bit...probably more than most people expect. My reasoning behind this is simple. In Minny, Linehan went with essentially 2 TE's with Kleinsasser @ H-back and an actual TE. On this team there is no Kleinsasser type. This system is in actuallity meant to be a 2 TE system. Since we have no 2nd TE who is capable of being an everydown player it stands to reason we would find a way to put an extra threat out there which is what that H-Back/2nd Te is supposed to be. Unlike most FB's, lining RW or Ronnie in that H-back spot would allow us to have another weapon that must be accounted for on the field at all times.
 
I'd guess that if Ricky plays well in his first 1-2 games back, he will be the starter. Both of them lining up in the backfield is just sweet though.
 
The more I keep thinking about it, I'm starting to not like the Idea of them splitting carries. You hear all the time about a Running Back getting into the "grove" during the course of a game, and I think it kinda hurts their performances when they have to split carries with someone else. Like in KC......... They have a 2 headed monster there too with Holmes, and Johnson, but everytime I see Holmes do good one series, then see Johnson in the next I can't help but to think it's a mistake not to have Holmes out there. I mean I know, I know they're both great players and should both play, but I just hope it doesn't disrupt their rhythem during the course of a game.
 
arsenal said:
good points here...

i agree its easy when someone gets hot to keep playing them... but in game 8 lets say by then ricky is back in teh groove, whos playing that first drive in single back sets? or whos getting the bulk of those carries in the first quarter? is it just who had the better past few games? i dont know how they'll figure it out and disperse it...
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I think for the Most part, yes Ricky will be starting, but if we are playing a team that has a very dangerous pass rush, and we have maybe an injury or two on the line, or we are going against a team that is very weak against the pass, I would not be surprised to see Ronnie start.

arsenal said:
and also how often do you think we'll even see ricky and ronnie in the backfield together... we know ronnie can be a FB and block but you dont want your big investment acting as a fullback and getting pounded for a whole game, sure some situations is fine, but not all the time...
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I agree, they will not be out there as much as some believe, but there will be times out there when you will see them lined up (Like the way we seem to have one fleeflicker every game). With both of them out there, it allows the team to do many many things, Ricky might run it with Ronnie blocking, Ronnie might get the quick hand off, one of the two could go out for a pass as the other stays to block, both could go out as quick safty valves, both could force safeties to cheat up, and instead keep both RB back to block and allow the WRs to get single coverage.

arsenal said:
the more i think about how they can be used, the more confused i am about how the coaching staff will atually do it... im very curious and excited though
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Arsenal these next few weeks when Ricky us back are going to be amazing, and I do not think many can be sure what is going to be done with these two, especially if Ronnie goes crazy on the Bills and againg racks up 100+ yards with few touches. I can't wait. :D
 
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