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As I search in vain for a reason, any reason, not to continue harp on The Fire Nick Saban Now bandwagon, the only precedent that I can think of is the Seattle Solution.

Remember when they hired Mike Holmgren? He had been the longtime very successful head coach of the Packers, one of the best jobs in all of sports.

But he wasn't quite happy because in their organization, he worked for a GM. Being the classy organization that the Packers are, they allowed him to search for a job where he could be both, HC and GM. Seattle was only too happy to oblige Holmgren. His personal quest was fulfilled.

And while his ego was satisfied, the Seahawks organization was not. They won 9 games his first year, 6 the next, then 9, then 7, then 10, then 9 again....Enough was enough. They stripped him of his GM duties. Mike Holmgren, a direct disciple of The God Bill Walsh, one of the most successful and proud men in the sport was stripped of his GM duties.

They didn't do it to humiliate him. They didn't do it to punish him. They did it because it was best for the organization. He needed to concentrate all of his efforts on coaching the team and allow a GM to concentrate on personnel and cap issues.

It worked beautifully. Save the worst officiating in the history of the game, they would have hoisted the Lombardi Trophy.

Anyway, maybe this could be the antidote we need to cure our ills. Make Saban only the coach. He will coach any and all players the GM sees fit and he will have input, but not the final say.

If not, I am at a loss. I don't think he's going to right this ship alone. And what a shame its going to be. :boohoo:
 
Desides said:
We already have a GM. His name is Randy Mueller.

Go ahead, write to Randy Mueller and ask him why he's made such outlandishly garish personnel decisions this season...considering his duties as GM consist of having a Blackberry; and using it to find players, that Nick pretty much passes over for his own choices. Remember, "Saban Says"...on/about/& including everything Dolphins. Randy's a beard...there only to take the blame for the megalomania from above...Cloud Saban.
 
TampaFinsFan01 said:
As I search in vain for a reason, any reason, not to continue harp on The Fire Nick Saban Now bandwagon

I stopped reading right here! Too many knee jerk reactions!
 
I really can't believe there even is talk of firing Saban or stripping him of his GM duties. He's in his second year, give the guy a little bit more time. It's sickening that everyone flips out at 1-3, no, it's not what we wanted but we're still a work in progress. If Saban had come out and said we would be in the Super Bowl, then that's one thing, but he's been very modest in discussing what he thinks this team will be capable of doing.

Last year, Miami totally overachieved. There's no way anyone can argue that we were supposed to go 9-7, you're a liar if you try. That definitely had a fairly large effect on the predictions of this team which obviously haven't looked too good yet.

It's the fifth week of the season, there's no consistency on the o-line and the secondary has had a few problems (though it's performed much better than I expected). We didn't hire Saban to turn the team into an overnight success, we hired him to build a team that would compete for a number of years. I'm not too concerned. Give it some time. The man has coached 20 games, he's 10-10 after taking over a team that went 4-12. Realistically we can't even begin to judge some of his personnel decisions for a few years because he's only been here for two years, two drafts and two off-seasons. If he had a career record of 1-19, ok maybe discuss firing him. But I wouldn't flip quite yet.
 
I think Saban needs time.. Mortensen said in his chat today, that Saban took over a team that had a LOT of issues, limited draft picks and salary cap space to fix. They will get better.
 
wow....saban is highly reguarded as an amazing football coach...chill out...
 
TampaFinsFan01 said:
As I search in vain for a reason, any reason, not to continue harp on The Fire Nick Saban Now bandwagon, the only precedent that I can think of is the Seattle Solution.
Yes it's me again. :D Well it's been a day or two since your last fire Saban thread and since he hasn't won a super bowl since that time I guess you figured you'd search in vain for a precedent. Nothing wrong with that, I know we are still in our losing trend so you figured you'd help out. Very nice of you by the way. However once again your fingers typed faster than your brain could think. You already know I disagree about the fire Saban thing, but hey you are entitled to your opinion. But the statement above totally kills any chance of giving credibility to the opinion that you are trying to sell. The Seattle gig is the only precedent you could think of????? They gave the guy 6 years you want to give our coach 1? Hmmm..... Who did they play in the Super bowl? How long had their coach been there? How many coaches that have won a Super Bowl did it by or in the second year of being an NFL head coach? You would go against every NFL coaching precedent that I can think of to fire a coach after 20 games. Calling for a coaches job after 20 games and then searching for precedent that goes against it and only being able to think of one is pure ignorance. Name me a coach that won a SB in his first 20 games as an NFL coach? I can't think of a coach right now that was ever fired after only 20 games as a coach. I'm sure it's happened but I can't think of who it happened to off the top of my head. I can probably name 30-40 coaches who got more than 20 games as a coach in the NFL before being fired.
If you want to use precedents to ease your pain of trying to accept Saban may still be the coach at the end of the year, how about giving a precedent to show how a team fired a coach after 20 games and won a SB in the next 20? That right there is a reason, and not just any reason, but a darn good one, to jump off of the Fire Saban bandwagon you are trying so hard to get going. The fact is giving a coach more than 20 games is the norm. My logic is backed by fact on this one. What is yours based on?

You really do seem like an intelligent person...... and then I read this thread. I assume you are an impulsive person or you wouldn't do rash things without thinking them through. The last thread we had some good debate. I'm curious how this one is even debatable?
 
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Desides said:
We already have a GM. His name is Randy Mueller.

End of thread, done. The stupidity has already been exposed, no need to drag this topic further into the depths.
 
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