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dlockz
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Strongest hmmm i would say hmmm Defensive Line right now in my opinion
especially the end position. I think the oline will soon be among the best in the league.
Weakest hmmm wide receiver. we have three legitimate receivers that should be on an nfl roster and none of them at this point is close to special.
G-Force
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I just love the foundation and the areas we started to address already. We started in the trenches and that is the best place to start. We overhauled te worst ST's players in the NFL last year and replaced with with people that starred for their former teams in that role to help Ginn out whom faired pretty well with those losers we feilded last year for ST's. We also addressed the QB position, TE, LB' and WR positions. The secondary is the only thing we didn't address that much. As far as where are we strong and where we are weak no one knows. We will have to wait and see how these new players and our hold-overs play in our new scheme. So people may struggle for one team and star for another but BP and co apparently only signed players they knew were their kind.
dlockz
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I dont think we really addressed WR we basically just replaced Booker but we are much worse at receiver than we were at the beginning of last year.
Dolfan1000
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You have to factor Ted Ginn's likely improvement into that equation (or I should say, expected improvement). Say what you want about the guy, but you have to count on the #9 pick of a year ago to be a pretty good player. So we'll see.
dlockz
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Even if you factor in improvement Chambers, Booker,Ginn and Hagan are much better than Ginn, Wilford,Hagan and various scrubs.
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On paper, Chambers is the best of them all, no question. But like I said, if you expect the Ginn of last year to be the equivalent (or close to) a Chambers, and Hagan comes around, its not quite so different. I realize that is a lot of hypotheticals, but with a young team, that is how you have to look at it. I think Wilford is a superior player to Booker.
My take on the WR position is that it is only as good as the QB and Oline play. If the run game excels, bringing 8 in the box on most plays, thats a plus. If the offensive line can protect and handle the blitz, thats a plus. If the QB can make the throws, thats a plus. No doubt, these WRs can catch the ball So we'll see how the offense's overall improvement impacts those guys.
My take on the WR position is that it is only as good as the QB and Oline play. If the run game excels, bringing 8 in the box on most plays, thats a plus. If the offensive line can protect and handle the blitz, thats a plus. If the QB can make the throws, thats a plus. No doubt, these WRs can catch the ball So we'll see how the offense's overall improvement impacts those guys.
G-Force
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We signed Wilford and Kirkus and signed 2 UFA's in Devon Bess and Jayson Foster whom both had very impressive collegiate careers to give Ginn, Hagan, and Camarillo competition. Wilford, Ginn, Hagan, and Camarillo all have a great shot of having break out years IMO and who knows what the other 3 will bring. Competition only helps.
Heres my rankings from Strongest to Weakest:
1)OL
2)RB
3)DL
4)LB
5)QB (This is still yet TBD)
6)Safety/Corner (You choose)
Not sure where to put WR's. Somewhere around 3, 4, or 5
dlockz
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That is a pitiful group but maybe they will show something. I am expecting Bess to be a solid player although I think we will sign another receiver at some point and Bess will be our fifth receiver.
G-Force
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Calling those guys scrubs? You know nothing of them and you guys beloved Chambers lead the league in drops almost every single year. Wilford has great hands and one of the lowest drop ratios in the NFL and Booker is on the decline. I will take our new young WR's over mr. Drops and an old Booker anyday. Dissing kids before you know anything about them or how we will develope and use them is just wrong. BTW you could also figure in Fasano as a receiver as well because he is better than any TE we have had in decades.
dlockz
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I dont count Fasano because he is a TE but I agree that he is an upgrade over Martin. Iim dissing them based on every team in the NFl passed on them for seven rounds, maybe they will turn out good. Kircus is a scrub, Perry was a scrub, camrillo except for the one catch is a scrub. I said I think Bess will be solid as for Foster who knows but not many 5'7" receivers do much in the NFL. As for Chambers I guarantee he will have a better career than any receiver on the Phins currently and Wilford can barely outrun Henne although he will probably do his usual 40 something catches with some good blocking.Chambers drops were way overrated and its not like he did not catch some passes that other recievers would have had no chance at. As for old Booker he still basically put up the same numbers as super young 29 year old wilford did. Our receiving group is one of the worst in the league at this point.
fatkirstyalley
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Honestly I think our biggest strength right now is our Front Office. I know that really isnt an answer but I think it will lend itself to making the entirety of the team better....if I had to name a part of the on field team it would be special teams
dlockz
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People always try to ovehype Chamber's drops here is a ranking of NFL receivers froma guy who knows a little about how good Chambers is first hand.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3309949
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3309949
C-HUCKS
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The weakest are on the team is the secondary and wr's.