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The Truth about Henne's Drive

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There is this preception floating around these boards that the Cardinals were playing "soft" or "prevent" defense against Henne. I've watched the game again and they definitely were not playing soft. They brought many blitzes off the edge, they were stunting with D'linemen, and they trying a lot of different looks to confuse Henne. But he remained poised and confident in the pocket depsite getting nailed on just about every play. Now, I'm not making this thread to say that Henne needs to start next week, like I've said in other threads, if he is the future of our franchise like he looks to be, then he doesn't need to see the field now cause he'll get killed. We need to have our OL fixed, our running game intact, and our receivers making plays before we should put our future out there. Because despite his impressive display, he was hit very hard mulitiple times, and it's just not worth risking our future until other things get fixed. This thread is to inform anyone that thinks Henne's drive was against some sort of soft defense. The Cardinals wanted to keep us out of the endzone, and they definitely were not going to concede a TD to a rookie. Something else happened during that drive that many fans have lost sight, Henne was getting nailed left and right. In fact, I remember one play where Jake Long comes back into the huddle and it looks like he's apologizing for letting the blitzing DB come untouched and Henne just says something and claps his hands, and he calmly completed the fourth down. As bad as it sounds, our horrible OL taught us a valuable lesson about our future QB: he can take a beating and he keeps getting up and remains calm in the pocket.
 
I agree. That was not a soft defense he faced. They came at him, and came hard and fast. Most people hating are the sour puss Beck lovers that can't admit he sucks.

I do agree that starting him now would be a huge mistake. It won't make much of a difference and he will just end up getting hurt, and his confidence shot.
 
thanks for the thread i was pretty drunk by that time and i just figured henne scored some pity pts at the end
 
OK there has been so much debate about this so I just watched Henne's drive on Tivo in order to see it for myself. The guy who posted above me needs a lesson on what the word fact means. I counted 7 times where the cards sent 4 and of those 7 times they stunted once. They blitzed 5 times and of those 5 times 1 was penalty on them one was a running play and the other 3 were incompletions. So Henne stared down the barrel nicely but didn't complete a pass when blitzed. And yes there was 2 times where the cards sent only 3.

The cards later went to a goal line defense and we were running so it was tough for me to tell what they were doing. Bottom line is Henne faced a semi aggressive defense for the majority of his series. He wasn't under an all out blitz on every play, like some posters claim, and the Cards were also not sending 3 like others claim.
 
DolfanISS said:
OK there has been so much debate about this so I just watched Henne's drive on Tivo in order to see it for myself. The guy who posted above me needs a lesson on what the word fact means. I counted 7 times where the cards sent 4 and of those 7 times they stunted once. They blitzed 5 times and of those 5 times 1 was penalty on them one was a running play and the other 3 were incompletions. So Henne stared down the barrel nicely but didn't complete a pass when blitzed. And yes there was 2 times where the cards sent only 3.

The cards later went to a goal line defense and we were running so it was tough for me to tell what they were doing. Bottom line is Henne faced a semi aggressive defense for the majority of his series. He wasn't under an all out blitz on every play, like some posters claim, and the Cards were also not sending 3 like others claim.
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True, but this was a realistic game time situation. An NFL QB will not face an all out blitz every single play. Despite what you call a "semi-aggressive" defense (which I don't think was the case either), he led us to a score on a nice drive in which he handled himself very well against a defense that wasn't letting up and playing soft. And that is a positive to take with us.
 
Maybe we should put Beck in as the sacrificial lamb until we fix the OLine next year. If Beck gets killed no great loss. :sidelol:
 
They may not have been in full prevent mode, but it was pretty obvious to me they took their foot off the gas quite a bit, especially in the secondary, which makes sense because they had it wrapped up.

That's not to take anything away from Henne. He had a nice performance. I was happy to see it. It gives me some hope. But whether he's ready or not, like you said there's no reason to risk him being out there this year.
 
Ted said:
Maybe we should put Beck in as the sacrificial lamb until we fix the OLine next year. If Beck gets killed no great loss. :sidelol:
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Actually, thats not a real bad idea. Except that getting killed bit, should Chad P go down, & the O'Line is still learning, then putting Beck in to save Chad H getting a belting actually sound pretty sensible.

If Chad H is our future, then keep him safe. By playing Beck in the meantime until the O line can keep someone safe may be a good idea for the long term plans of the team.
 
Nice post...I agree...while Henne did look good, I don't think we should put him in until after midseason, earliest....we got some kinks to work out
 
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