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The Worst Defense in the AFC East

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How did our defense regress so badly? I know it was a bit of smoke and mirrors and scheming that probably made our defense look better than it really was in the last couple of years. Is the loss of Byron Jones really the explanation? Coaching? X starting to breakdown? Or simply the fact that we have not had the talent we need at LB position and it has fully exposed us. Probably all of the above but it needs serious work in the off season. Frustrating to see the sure fire picks the Jets landed and how it has turned their D around quickly.

In watching the Bills Jets game right now I just feel like our D not in the same league. Throw Pats defense in there also, thank goodness their offense is putrid. Seriously concerned about our defense more than anything else down this homestretch - followed by Tua's health and our O line (which are highly correlated).
 
Don’t judge the bills Defense

The jets O sucks pretty bad without hall
 
It's pretty apparent this is the case at this time. Ugh
 
I think you've got to start with injuries. Byron Jones is a good player. I know a lot of Miami fans don't like him, or talk about his lack of interceptions. But look how the Dolphins defense took off a few years back when Jones came back from an injury. His coverage ability has changed the way the defense can play.

Brandon Jones was also playing at a high level. Nick Needham's injury hurt.

But it is more than injuries. The cover zero just isn't effective anymore. That Brock Purdy had no issues with that scheme really says a lot.

Miami has a really talented defensive line, but the linebackers as a group aren't great.

I think another factor is that the Dolphins aren't winning the time of possession. An effective running game is a defense's best friend.

So, obviously it's a number of factors. In most game this defense has come up big in crucial moments, third downs, redzone etc. But not enough against the better teams.
 
pjzabo said:
How did our defense regress so badly? I know it was a bit of smoke and mirrors and scheming that probably made our defense look better than it really was in the last couple of years. Is the loss of Byron Jones really the explanation? Coaching? X starting to breakdown? Or simply the fact that we have not had the talent we need at LB position and it has fully exposed us. Probably all of the above but it needs serious work in the off season. Frustrating to see the sure fire picks the Jets landed and how it has turned their D around quickly.

In watching the Bills Jets game right now I just feel like our D not in the same league. Throw Pats defense in there also, thank goodness their offense is putrid. Seriously concerned about our defense more than anything else down this homestretch - followed by Tua's health and our O line (which are highly correlated).
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The 49ers game left me disappointed in the defense. SF attacked the linebackers with a lot of success. With Brock Purdy to boot.

The Dolphins linebackers are who they are. Meaning that's an issue that won't be resolved until new players are brought in.

But I am hopeful that the pass rush can continue to get better and hit it's stride.

It would also help if Miami ran the ball more effectively keeping the defense fresh.
 
pjzabo said:
How did our defense regress so badly? I know it was a bit of smoke and mirrors and scheming that probably made our defense look better than it really was in the last couple of years. Is the loss of Byron Jones really the explanation? Coaching? X starting to breakdown? Or simply the fact that we have not had the talent we need at LB position and it has fully exposed us. Probably all of the above but it needs serious work in the off season. Frustrating to see the sure fire picks the Jets landed and how it has turned their D around quickly.

In watching the Bills Jets game right now I just feel like our D not in the same league. Throw Pats defense in there also, thank goodness their offense is putrid. Seriously concerned about our defense more than anything else down this homestretch - followed by Tua's health and our O line (which are highly correlated).
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Thats exactly what im thinking while watching the game. Theyre both have their D playing with intensity, very stout. If we call our defense a bend dont break D, these guys barely bend lol.

Boyer needs to dial up a gameplan next few weeks, add that to having his players play with same intensity as buff/jets. I think we should be fine.
 
Of the playcallers for teams with a real chance (offense and defense), I think Boyer is the worst. I've seen people say he probably comes back in 2023, Big O among others, but I think that'd be a mistake. To me, he doesn't coach with an good understanding of strengths and weaknesses and how his team matches up with a given offense.
 
Bend but don’t break works when you get turnovers and stops on 4th down. We have been pretty good on 4th down but just haven’t gotten the turnovers.
 
j-off-her-doll said:
Of the playcallers for teams with a real chance (offense and defense), I think Boyer is the worst. I've seen people say he probably comes back in 2023, Big O among others, but I think that'd be a mistake. To me, he doesn't coach with an good understanding of strengths and weaknesses and how his team matches up with a given offense.
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Boyer is a technician basically... He understands a system 100%, just dont expect him to work out of that box...
 
pjzabo said:
How did our defense regress so badly? I know it was a bit of smoke and mirrors and scheming that probably made our defense look better than it really was in the last couple of years. Is the loss of Byron Jones really the explanation? Coaching? X starting to breakdown? Or simply the fact that we have not had the talent we need at LB position and it has fully exposed us. Probably all of the above but it needs serious work in the off season. Frustrating to see the sure fire picks the Jets landed and how it has turned their D around quickly.

In watching the Bills Jets game right now I just feel like our D not in the same league. Throw Pats defense in there also, thank goodness their offense is putrid. Seriously concerned about our defense more than anything else down this homestretch - followed by Tua's health and our O line (which are highly correlated).
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What do you mean regress? This has been our defense under Boyer.
There have been a couple of fun games under him that i think distort perceptions of the entire body of work.
 
j-off-her-doll said:
Problem is the system he knows doesn't match the talent on the team or the smart way to defend basically any team with quality receivers. But, I agree.
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The best thing Boyer does is find and develop guys in the secondary. @ Kamelion4291 made a really good point in another thread. He said the whole point of the blitzing is to force a quick check down throw to where your defense wants it but Miami never seems to be covering the outlet.
 
Rick Cartman said:
What do you mean regress? This has been our defense under Boyer.
There have been a couple of fun games under him that i think distort perceptions of the entire body of work.
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cmon man the amoeba defense, the game against niners, Mahommes? we are a far cry from that. As others have said we were built on impeccable/shut down coverage in the secondary and we don’t have that anymore, nor do we have the turnovers. In 2020 we were top in the league D forcing turnovers, in 2021 we were 9th, this year 28th
 
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