Well, I didn't say they wouldn't "lose" and have to pay something (hence my use of the phrase "severely liable"). I just doubt it will be the kind of crippling figure that would end football as we know it. Cigarette companies were far more liable for withholding information and endangering people's lives and there were/are far more smokers than there are football players, yet the cigarette companies seem to be doing okay.
Think Goodell Sucks? Too Harsh? QBs with Skirts?
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Well, I didn't say they wouldn't "lose" and have to pay something (hence my use of the phrase "severely liable"). I just doubt it will be the kind of crippling figure that would end football as we know it. Cigarette companies were far more liable for withholding information and endangering people's lives and there were/are far more smokers than there are football players, yet the cigarette companies seem to be doing okay.
So if that's the primary agenda then why should we be praising Goodell for anything? All he's doing is making the game safer so they can add more profitable games and make it more dangerous again. It's a nonsensical strategy if the primary goal of safety initiatives is to shield the league from injury related lawsuits.
How can you be sure that it wouldn't cripple the league? 55 alone is a recent enough player to get sympathy, and how much money is one life worth? now how many lives have been ruined playing this game? how many more people who's playing days are done, who have nothing to lose but can gain money for thier family would be willing to pile it on? This could indeed potentially ruin the league as we know it.
To believe this has not been going on throughout the NFL is silly. If you have been paying attention several retired players have confirmed this stuff was a part of the game when they played. As for the easy 1st down, it is no different then when a CB touches a WR past the 5 yard zone on 3d and long. The game has evolved into putting explosive offenses on the field instead of 6-3 defensive slugfests. The bigger the shoot out the more interesting to a broader base of fans.
I agree that at times some of the most ridiculous crap is called as a penalty in today's NFL but the popularity of the game has grown in leaps and bounds and the big offenses are a large reason for that.
I'm not sure. It's just my opinion, the reasons for which I've laid out in my previous posts. Your second point -- about piling on -- is certainly a factor in this. But your first -- about "ruined lives" -- seems unnecessarily dramatic to me. Muhammad Ali has always maintained that he doesn't blame boxing for his Parkinson's not just because no one knows for sure if boxing was the cause of it but because without boxing he knows he would have ended up a house painter in Louisville just like his father was.
No one would have ever heard of Junior Seau if it wasn't for football. Let's not forget that. If football ended his life (which I think is a stretch, anyway) it also made it, just as NASCAR made Dale Earnhardt and then ended him, too. I don't think anyone can honestly say they play the game ignorant of the risks it presents to their body. The risks to the mind, as I've said, have only become recently known.
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This discussion has turned into an ignorant discussion of Tom Brady vs the World.
RidinSurtains
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The rules favoring offense have ruined the purity of the game and made the NFL an entirely dumbed down sport. These rules are in effect to make offensive scoring easier and to sell tickets, NOT to protect player safety, and I wish people would just call a spade a spade!
Stop right there.
If he's making the game safer and extending the life of the product then be thankful.
The end.
RidinSurtains
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Nobody cares about defense huh? Hm... Interesting.
I bet defensive players and defensive coaches care a lot about defense. I bet you, as a Dolphins fan care a lot about the Dolphins playing defense. I bet it pisses you off a great deal when touch fouls are called on Tom Brady and Wes Welker when the Fins attempt to play defense.
I guess, by your logic, there is no reason to re sign Cam Wake, and every defensive player that we brought in (whether it be draft or FA) in the last few years was a big waste.
I care a lot about defense, it still wins championships when you pair a good one with a good QB. But the way the league is going, it won't matter at all pretty soon, which is supremely lame. The NFL used to be for hard nosed tough players, what happened?
Haha. No, it's not the end. Not if the game is being made safer only to make it more dangerous again. If you care about extending the life of football and feel like player safety is a threat to that, then the overall goal of extending the season should be your enemy. And therefore, the person pushing for that goal -- Roger Goodell -- should also be your enemy.
RidinSurtains
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Lol no one should be thankful if the game is completely ruined. Also, you act as if his efforts are geniune in the least, which they aren't. Goodell is the biggest phony known to man. If he cared about player safety he'd be pushing for a shorter season and better technology in helmets. He's pushing steadfastly against both ideas, because both would lose the league money.
I love the NFL more than anybody, whether the Dolphins win or lose dictates my mood all week (which is why my life is primarily filled with anger) but if this trend of disingenuous bull**** is going to continue, we will be seeing flag football soon.
Should we be happy about "extending the life of the product" in that case?
Fans don't care about defense. Of course players do. Don't be silly.
The NFL has never been so big and so appealing sine Goodell took over.
Be happy.
The NFL has never been so big and so appealing sine Goodell took over.
Be happy.
RidinSurtains
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I'm a huge fan, I'm as big of a fan as there is and I care a lot about defense and it does still matter to an extent. So what? Nobody else feels like I do? Our opinion doesn't count? I think you're entirely wrong about that and Im not the only one by a long shot.
IMO fans that don't care about defense are morons, and if you want to ignore half of the game then you shouldn't watch the game at all. NFL football hit its high water mark in the early 2000s, the Dolphins missed the boat thanks to dog **** Jay Fiedler, and the quality of the game hasn't been the same since.
They do both. The goal is to eliminate blows to the head; however, with he QBs, they have taken it a step to far.
This is an interesting thread because I do think Goodell sucks, but not because he's tinkering with the rules in the interests of safety, competitiveness, or what have you. He sucks because of his efforts to extend the season (thus watering down the importance of each game and resulting only in more meaningless games being played at the end of the season) and his maniacal drive to make sure the NFL is not only the most popular sport in this country but the entire world. Not that this is a dubious goal in theory. But playing regular season games in Europe and wherever else, instead of in front of the hometown fans, is a slap to the face of the current fanbase, done in the hopes of luring a small percentage of foreigners who seem quite satisfied with their own sports leagues.
Of course, Goodell isn't king, so it's really not personal. He's just the figurehead (and the hatchet man) for the owners. It's the owners who set him up in this position and approve of his action who suck.
Of course, Goodell isn't king, so it's really not personal. He's just the figurehead (and the hatchet man) for the owners. It's the owners who set him up in this position and approve of his action who suck.