This draft is a big question mark

[hallphin]

I am not sure this is the worst draft ever but it certainly isn't shaping up to be in the top half. I hope I am wrong.

My take:

#1: Ginn is clearly a questionable pick and if you were going to reach like that, reach for an OT like Staley. My guess is they tried to trade down and couldn't and got stuck. If they really wanted a stud WR, they should have done the deal to get CJ from Detroit. I would have given up next years #1, this years #9 and 60 for him - since there is no question he is the real deal.

#40: I am really not that upset with passing on Brady and Beck will probably be pretty good. Even tho' there was a bit of homer in Steve Young, he made some good points about Beck's ability. In the end, he is likely to be better than anybody we have fielded since Marino left.

#60: No real opinion on this one. I will take a wait and see approach. I am guessing that Houck had some input and that should count for something if it is true.

#71: Horrible pick. In fact, I think it is worse than the Ginn pick. I simply can't fathom the reasoning in this pick. I know all the 'Nole faithful are going to come out of the wood work on this but really, Michael Bush is a far better pick than this one - if we really needed an RB - which I don't think we did. I read a very good assessment on another post that we could have waited for June cuts to pick up a serviceable back-up to Ronnie. I think Free or any highly graded CB is a better choice here.

 

[MastR_EvaluatoR]

#71: Horrible pick. In fact, I think it is worse than the Ginn pick. I simply can't fathom the reasoning in this pick. I know all the 'Nole faithful are going to come out of the wood work on this but really, Michael Bush is a far better pick than this one - if we really needed an RB - which I don't think we did. I read a very good assessment on another post that we could have waited for June cuts to pick up a serviceable back-up to Ronnie. I think Free or any highly graded CB is a better choice here.

Thank you. I said that quote.. There is no reason why we couldn't wait till the June cuts to get a serviceable backup to Ronnie..

And secondly, you are correct sir, there was more value for the 3rd round pick.. And I am certain Booker would have lasted for another round or two in the draft.. Miami reached yet again.. And reached for something we don't even need, or can fill with the June cuts.

There are always a ton of serviceable running backs always floating around the league during June cuts, and we could have saved the pick for another lineman in the 3rd round.. Heck, there were tons of better options available for that pick to make this a better team .

That's the way I would have done it.. And I feel my way is clearly the better way for the team .. As it adds another good (high pick) to the roster without losing much, if anything at all ..

 

[LarryFinFan]

I am not sure this is the worst draft ever but it certainly isn't shaping up to be in the top half. I hope I am wrong.

My take:

#1: Ginn is clearly a questionable pick and if you were going to reach like that, reach for an OT like Staley. My guess is they tried to trade down and couldn't and got stuck. If they really wanted a stud WR, they should have done the deal to get CJ from Detroit. I would have given up next years #1, this years #9 and 60 for him - since there is no question he is the real deal.

#40: I am really not that upset with passing on Brady and Beck will probably be pretty good. Even tho' there was a bit of homer in Steve Young, he made some good points about Beck's ability. In the end, he is likely to be better than anybody we have fielded since Marino left.

#60: No real opinion on this one. I will take a wait and see approach. I am guessing that Houck had some input and that should count for something if it is true.

#71: Horrible pick. In fact, I think it is worse than the Ginn pick. I simply can't fathom the reasoning in this pick. I know all the 'Nole faithful are going to come out of the wood work on this but really, Michael Bush is a far better pick than this one - if we really needed an RB - which I don't think we did. I read a very good assessment on another post that we could have waited for June cuts to pick up a serviceable back-up to Ronnie. I think Free or any highly graded CB is a better choice here.

We had no real ammo to go after CJ, and you don't know that they didn't go after him. Ginn is only a "bad" pick because Quinn was on the board to 99% of the folks on this board. It may yet come back to haunt us, who knows but that is why you think Ginn is a reach....many mock drafts had us taking Ginn at #9 prior to the last month. What you have to consider is that his skill set fits this offense very well. At the very least, he will be a significantly better returner than WW ever was or could be and at the least just as productive as a WR. With Ginn on the outside, CC can be moved inside to the slot where he's had his best production as a pro (back when we ran the NT offense before). Ginn is just the guy to stretch the D and open up the middle for CC... Ginn, even if he can't learn to get off the press, as detractors say is his biggest knock at the pro level, will still at the very least allow Cam to utilize other receivers. The fact that Booker is on the block tells me that Hagan may be coming into his own this year or at least have that capability. It leaves us real strong at the WR skill position.

I can't argue that Quinn and Rice (since he was the best WR left once we picked at #40) wouldn't have looked better to most of us, but Ginn's return skills can't be ignored, even if it's not all about WR...

#71 - At best, he was under utilized at FSU and suffered from a porous OL. I'm not a big FSU fan, but anyone who watched them the last 2 yrs knows that's OL was horrible and the offense was not what it's been in the past. At the very least, he replaces what we lost in Minor, only he is a better runner than Minor was and is certainly a better receiver out of the backfield than Minor was. Bush is not what we drafted this guy to do. Bush won't be ready to play this coming year either... that's a lifetime for a RB in the NFL. Bush's skill set isn't what they were looking for in this pick either...

Look, the moves that were made today are all tainted in most fans eyes because Quinn was on the board and we didn't take him. That is why most are bashing Cam-Mul, but everyone knows you can't evaluate the first half of the draft on the Sunday morning following the thing...give it a rest until we see the whole picture.

 

[Shula Fan]

Ginn might not be a question mark. He will add points to the scoreboard. Either in the return game or as a WR (maybe both).

As far as the 3rd rd pick. I was suprised and said huh. Watching some of the tape on this guy shows he has Sanders (Barry) like moves. I'm not saying he's the next Barry. He did alot with no O-line at FSU.

I was suprised we let Quinn get past us when he fell to us at 9, but didn't really care as long as we got one of the other three/four QBs in round two and we did.

I think maybe this could be the end for Ricky. RM traded him once and maybe will do the same thing again. We must have Trent Green in the bag too.

 

[zonk4ever]

Our critical need - left tackle was not addressed, day one. We "reached bigtime" for all 4 of our 1st day picks. Vernon Carey, our only stud offensive tackle, will be shifted back to left tackle where played poorly his first couple of years. Alabi, who's done nothing, will play right tackle. Ginn's injury may never heal and we took him top ten. How many teams can brag about that kind of incompetence!

 

[hallphin]

Larryfinfan-

I was not a big Quinn guy. This is about Ginn @ 9. Ginn by almost every measure is a "reach" - not necessarily a bad player, BUT NOT at #9 when this draft is loaded at WR. Everybody is talking about return skills - c'mon, who drafts return specialists at #9. We are NOT NE, we can't afford flyers like this. If we were stuck at #9 being unable to trade up or down, use the pick for something, OT or CB, where this draft isn't loaded with players.

This is not a stellar draft and only the homers are talking it up to rationalize a bad draft.