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This Is A Bit Disconcerting (re Odds Vs Mn)

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Saw this on some site talking about betting odds. Seems to fit the Dolphin history also:


Trends to know: The Dolphins are coming off a 34-33 win over the Patriots as 8.5-point underdogs. Oddsmakers aren’t giving Miami much credit for their miracle win.

In the past five seasons, teams that won their previous game as a touchdown or greater underdog and then are getting 7 or more points in their next game have gone 1-18 straight up and 4-15 against the spread...”

So when a big underdog wins and then is a big underdog the next week... es no bueno.

Here’s hoping we shock not the country, just the Miami fan base!
 
Miami always seem to play in Minnesota within a year or so after the Vikings make the title game. Played at Minnesota in 2002, vikes were in 2000 title game. 2010, Miami played at Minnesota, Minnesota was in 2009 title game. Miami won that game 14-10 after everyone had that game pegged as a definite loss. Now 2018 Miami playing at Minnesota after they made the title game last year. Everyone again expected Miami to lose this game before the season started.

I don’t think Miami winning this game will be much of a shock. Spread is way too high. I’d take the +9.5 easily. If Miami wins I’m sure the media will quickly gloss over the highlights like eh Vikings are frauds and irrelevant now.
 
we will rush 4 and get no pressure and cousins will pick us apart. the vikings will rush 4 and get pressure and our statue QB will take sack after sack. the fan club will then blame the protection. wash. rinse. repeat.
 
Saw this on some site talking about betting odds. Seems to fit the Dolphin history also:


Trends to know: The Dolphins are coming off a 34-33 win over the Patriots as 8.5-point underdogs. Oddsmakers aren’t giving Miami much credit for their miracle win.

In the past five seasons, teams that won their previous game as a touchdown or greater underdog and then are getting 7 or more points in their next game have gone 1-18 straight up and 4-15 against the spread...”

So when a big underdog wins and then is a big underdog the next week... es no bueno.

Here’s hoping we shock not the country, just the Miami fan base!


That's interesting. Overall trends like that are much more valid than team specific trends.

I'd have to check to see if it holds up retreating further. No matter how impressive that sounds, 19 games is not much of a sample. I remember when I started looking at NFL situational trends I didn't feel comfortable unless it held at least 100 examples.

Also, the road/home is important. I would never take the Dolphins if they were a 7 point home underdog this week. That would kick in the angle of a team winning outright as home underdog and then home underdog the following game. It is a terrible situation in pro and college football, pro and college basketball. When the Dolphins defeated the Bears as home underdog and then were home underdog again a week later, it set up a poor situational spot and the effort level of both teams played out that way. Detroit was forewarned and Miami was flat.

Winning as home underdog then large road underdog is not nearly as negative, because you are now getting the bonus points atop the power rating margin. If Miami were home to Minnesota this week the spread might be +2.5 or thereabouts. Not nearly as attractive as the +8 I took Monday night, and now +7.

Of the top of my head, the Bills contributed to your stat by defeating the Vikings as huge 17 point underdog early in the season, and then getting wiped out as large underdog at Green Bay a week later. That's a rookie quarterback. Many negative trends attach to rookie quarterbacks. That's why I have a separate category for them. Teams that are big underdogs multiple weeks in a row sometimes have rookie quarterbacks.

I'm sure some situational bettors will have Minnesota this week. Lots of angles try to identify letdown spots. But I have more confidence in basic categorization. At the end of the season when I check how all the Crowd teams fared as home favorites of 4 points or more and especially 6 points or more, that bottom line is going to be terrible, as always.

Minnesota this week will be within that sample. If they defeat me I have no problem with it. Overall you can't go wrong challenging .500 or worse teams to cover large numbers at home. The teams covering those large spreads the second time around are frequently going to be Cream teams. That's an entirely different story.
 
I have no idea what to expect but admit I hate the matchups. Guess I’m hoping for the “DUE” in this case. Basically this team is not bad enough to be 1-7 on the road. We are “DUE” for a road win.
 
If we lost to the Vikings its the best game to lose - non conf opponent. At that point its win out and hope for help to make it at 9-7.
 
We need to win the turnover battle. Minnesota has talent on both sides of the ball, and if we lose the turnover battle, it likely goes south for us. If we win the turnover battle, I think this is a winnable game, regardless of the odds.

Our 3rd down efficiency is poor on both sides of the ball. We're not going to win a game without turnovers. We've played much better at home than away, and this is a dome game, so the conditions are quite different. This would be a great game to have X. Howard … but we are going to have to find a way without him.
 
we will rush 4 and get no pressure and cousins will pick us apart. the vikings will rush 4 and get pressure and our statue QB will take sack after sack. the fan club will then blame the protection. wash. rinse. repeat.

How about you wash, rinse and NOT repeat this Goddammm post...
 
I like the underdog role and this only adds to motivation as if the backs against the wall and win or go home isn't enough. Hey, it's the Miami Dolphins versus the WORLD.
 
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