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This is Grier's & Flores' baby now...sink or swim

Bundy Sanders

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When Brian Flores took the Dolphins head coaching job, he inherited a huge mess left behind by Gase & T-Baum. He inherited a roster short on talent that was first in 1 thing...dead cap money. Miami is #1 in dead cap money with 51.1M. The only teams remotely close are Arizona at 35.3 & the NYG at 34.1...no wonder all 3 teams are predicted to finish near the bottom in 2019.

Some will say that Chris Grier is part of the reason why we're in the shape that we're in. There could be truth to that. Thing is, none of us know who had the upper hand in draft decisions. Was it Gase? Grier? T-Baum? Who had the final say? What successful NFL team ever had a 3-headed monster making personnel decisions? That's on Ross as well since he hired all 3 of them.

Well, now that the inherited mess has been bulldozed (except for Reshad Jones), there's no guessing who's to be praised for future successes or who's to be blamed for future failures. Grier & Flores (with Ross' blessing) tore what little was left to the ground & they are the guys in charge of building it back up. They shouldn't be graded on the W-L record this year, but every move from here on out will determine the success of the Dolphins & the future employment of Grier & Flores. Some of us are excited to be on this journey. Some are agonizing over it. I guess the only thing that most of us can agree on is that the 2019 team will be very short on wins. Go Fins!
 
I say give Flores and Griers a 10 year contract.
 
Some folks are big picture guys, some operate better in the present..

It’s about time we are taking a big picture approach, I don’t care about winning a super bowl if I can’t back it up the following year, I want to build this thing into a dynasty, we now absolutely have a legitimate shot at doing that, first, with the youngest team in the league, 2nd, the most draft capitol/assets in the league over the next two years, three, the most money to spend in the game next year, and 4th, the best odds to land Tua..

I think with the additions of McKenzie and Marvin Allen, and the four years of scouting background by our head coach, our personnel decisions will be better..
 
djphinfan said:
Some folks are big picture guys, some operate better in the present..

It’s about time we are taking a big picture approach, I don’t care about winning a super bowl if I can’t back it up the following year, I want to build this thing into a dynasty, we now absolutely have a legitimate shot at doing that, first, with the youngest team in the league, 2nd, the most draft capitol/assets in the league over the next two years, three, the most money to spend in the game next year, and 4th, the best odds to land Tua..

I think with the additions of McKenzie and Marvin Allen, and the four years of scouting background by our head coach, our personnel decisions will be better..
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Your last statement is really the key. There will be hits and misses. Even some high draft choices won't pan out. But if you hit big on the quarterback there's a good chance everything will start to fall into place.
 
The good thing about this approach is that it’s essentially a reset. It’s something that hasn’t happened to this team before. We’ve had lot of different approaches and none of them have worked. Time to blow it up.

The downside, as I see it, is that if we whiff on the next couple of drafts, or more specifically, on a few key positions, this approach just bought us a looong time of misery, ala the Browns of 5-10 years ago who used their plethora of #1 picks on the likes of Weeden, Gilbert, and Manziel.
 
It has been exciting seeing change for once. I know I was sick of hearing how great our defense was every offseason just to fall flat in the regular season. This was the easy part though, let strap in for the long haul boys and girls as we are going to suck on purpose for a change.
 
datruth55 said:
Where was Grier in all this? How is it that some of you absolve him of all wrong doing?
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Because the direction we are taking right now is a night and day difference from when he was with Gase and Tannenbaum. That and Ross let Grier stay, which I'm assuming he heard Grier's plans/ideas and agreed with them.
 
Superself said:
Because the direction we are taking right now is a night and day difference from when he was with Gase and Tannenbaum. That and Ross let Grier stay, which I'm assuming he heard Grier's plans/ideas and agreed with them.
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So when Tannenbaum left after 2017 Grier went into a witness protection program and Gase was running the team by himself...Grier was still getting paid of course. But now Grier is back, no longer sequestered and he's here to save the Dolphins. Unless this whole thing fails in which case it will be Flores' fault.
 
Bundy Sanders said:
What are you talking about? Tannenbaum was "reassigned" (whatever that meant) on Dec. 31, 2018.

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He had nothing to do with the 2018 draft. He was already moved out of his roll. He stayed on for a year in some bogus roll made up by Ross for some unknown reason.

Grier was running the 2018 draft...but I did hear he went to the bathroom when Gase sneaked in the card for Gesicki. You could see the eraser marks and the faint name of Dallas Goedert behind Mike Gesicki.
 
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