This SI story ought to get Ted Ginn motivated

[DolphinsFan23]

Check this one out.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/michael_silver/06/07/ginn.dolphins/index.html

If Cam and Randy read this one, I have a feeling it will light a fire under them to make sure they work hard with Ted and get him up to speed for 2007 as a receiver. Cam and Randy put their chips behind Ted as our #9 pick, so they need to make sure he's going to rack up some big yards for us this year ... one way or another.

Cam needs to work like a mad scientist coming up with some good plays that will showcase Ted's talent. Ted needs to work on getting past the jam and into open space, running good routes, etc. He should spend all kinds of time in the film room watching Marvin Harrison, Steve Smith, and Santana Moss or something. We gotta put him on some sort of fast track accelerated receiver course or something. Our WR coach, Terry Robiskie, needs to fill up Ted's mind with receiver skills and knowledge fast. I'd like nothing better than to see Ted burn the Patriots or the Jets real good on some brilliant pass plays this year. Upstage and outshine Randy Moss or something. Make Sports Illustrated's Michael Silver eat some crow. :D

 

[ckparrothead]

Unfortunately Cam Cameron decides everything that is going to happen on the football field, and he seems to be strictly of the mind set that in 2007, Ted Ginn Jr. is primarily a return man. He MAY be lying, flat out lying, though. He may have things in mind on offense that could make Ginn a 500 yard receiver, who knows maybe even an 800 yard guy.

We'll see.

Reading that article makes me dislike Mr. Silver.

However, I love Zach's comments.

"You don't know about drafts till they play out, anyway," Thomas says. "Hell, there were 20 teams that passed on Brady Quinn -- even his own team (the Browns, who picked him 22nd overall after bypassing him at No. 3) passed on him -- and we're the bad ones?"

 

[MassMiamiFan]

"You notice the commissioner kind of paused before he read the name," Taylor says. "Like even he couldn't believe it."

I remember that too

I love how he put that Brady Quinn had "a golden arm." That type of moronic uninformed media hype is what got Quinn rated so high in the first place. Quinn is one of the most inaccurate QB's I have ever seen, he also gets shook real easy if a defense pressures him. He also doesn't seem to perform when the game is on the line either. Just remember, their is a reason he fell all the way to 22...

About Ginn; I don't understand why it's so bad to draft him as a kick returner for this year, receiver for the future. Receivers usually never jump into the league and succeed right away. We got one of the only players who is sure to make some big plays right away. And believe it or not, one of our biggest needs is a big play maker.

 

[ckparrothead]

I think there are a fair number of receivers that jump into the NFL and make a big impact in their first year.

The thing is, what I think MOST people do not realize, is the ones that do that are not the ones that run the most polished routes or have the best head for the game among their rookie class. The ones that make an impact right away are usually the biggest, fastest, most physically gifted guys. Guys that are just plain better in some way than most defenders are easier for coaches to plug them into situations that help them use their gifts to their advantage, and cover for their weaknesses.

For guys that don't have superlative physical skills, you're stuck just waiting on them to develop their overall game, which is NEVER, and I do mean almost NEVER, where you need it to be as a rookie.

 

[tylerdolphin]

I hope Ginn reads this and it lights a fire under his *** to give his all

 

[DolphinsFan23]

Unfortunately Cam Cameron decides everything that is going to happen on the football field, and he seems to be strictly of the mind set that in 2007, Ted Ginn Jr. is primarily a return man. He MAY be lying, flat out lying, though. He may have things in mind on offense that could make Ginn a 500 yard receiver, who knows maybe even an 800 yard guy.

We'll see.

Reading that article makes me dislike Mr. Silver.

However, I love Zach's comments.

I have a feeling that Cam already has some clever plays in mind for Ted this year. He'll probably ease him in there slowly as a receiver early in the season as a decoy to spread the field ... or as a "secret weapon" threat or something. Opposing team defensive coordinators will get a little jumpy when they see #19 come into the game. :D

Hopefully, some of those plays going to Ted will start working consistently and Cam will "feed the stud" all season long. That would be definitely be the ideal scenario. Likely? Dunno. I'd love to read an article from Michael Silver saying how wrong he was about Ted Ginn later this year. I remember reading some SI articles about Vince Young last year having a hard time as a rookie. You know how that turned out ... he made Rookie of the Year. Never know, Ted might surprise everyone. He's got a pretty good, experienced QB throwing to him this year. We shall see.

 

[MassMiamiFan]

I think there are a fair number of receivers that jump into the NFL and make a big impact in their first year.

The thing is, what I think MOST people do not realize, is the ones that do that are not the ones that run the most polished routes or have the best head for the game among their rookie class. The ones that make an impact right away are usually the biggest, fastest, most physically gifted guys. Guys that are just plain better in some way than most defenders are easier for coaches to plug them into situations that help them use their gifts to their advantage, and cover for their weaknesses.

For guys that don't have superlative physical skills, you're stuck just waiting on them to develop their overall game, which is NEVER, and I do mean almost NEVER, where you need it to be as a rookie.

ya, you make a really good point there. Randy Moss comes to mind right now

 

[RealDriscoll]

We all know Ginn will play receiver this year. To think not is crazy. He is too good to sit on the bench. He will return and receive .

 

[ckparrothead]

I have a feeling that Cam already has some clever plays in mind for Ted this year. He'll probably ease him in there slowly as a receiver early in the season as a decoy to spread the field ... or as a "secret weapon" threat or something. Opposing team defensive coordinators will get a little jumpy when they see #19 come into the game. :D

Hopefully, some of those plays going to Ted will start working consistently and Cam will "feed the stud" all season long. That would be definitely be the ideal scenario. Likely? Dunno. I'd love to read an article from Michael Silver saying how wrong he was about Ted Ginn later this year. I remember reading some SI articles about Vince Young last year having a hard time as a rookie. You know how that turned out ... he made Rookie of the Year. Never know, Ted might surprise everyone. He's got a pretty good, experienced QB throwing to him this year. We shall see.

You're probably right. They may limit Ginn's snaps for exactly that purpose, so that coordinators are more likely to take notice when he does come onto the field with that blazing speed, and so they're more likely to change up how they play defense on those plays. This goes a long way toward making defenses more predictable.

Cameron may also be thinking that he needs to redshirt Ginn this year as a receiver just because he doesn't want him to start having success doing things the wrong way. You could argue that Chris Chambers had success too early doing things the wrong way and he never got completely broken down and built back up into an elite receiver.

Sometimes it can be important for a guy to not see more playing time until he starts doing things the right way, the way the guy ahead of him on the depth chart does it...even if that guy could be inserted right now, do things the wrong way, and still make a positive impact just because he's so physically gifted. If you're aiming to turn Ted Ginn Jr. into an elite pro bowl caliber receiver, it may be best for him to work his way up by doing things correctly from a technique standpoint instead of getting success just by virtue of his running ability.

 

[1stDown]

You know Jt must have been thinking...WTF did the Dolphins just do.

 

[DolphinsFan23]

You're probably right. They may limit Ginn's snaps for exactly that purpose, so that coordinators are more likely to take notice when he does come onto the field with that blazing speed, and so they're more likely to change up how they play defense on those plays. This goes a long way toward making defenses more predictable.

Cameron may also be thinking that he needs to redshirt Ginn this year as a receiver just because he doesn't want him to start having success doing things the wrong way. You could argue that Chris Chambers had success too early doing things the wrong way and he never got completely broken down and built back up into an elite receiver.

Sometimes it can be important for a guy to not see more playing time until he starts doing things the right way, the way the guy ahead of him on the depth chart does it...even if that guy could be inserted right now, do things the wrong way, and still make a positive impact just because he's so physically gifted. If you're aiming to turn Ted Ginn Jr. into an elite pro bowl caliber receiver, it may be best for him to work his way up by doing things correctly from a technique standpoint instead of getting success just by virtue of his running ability.

Hopefully, Ted's "big bro" Chris Chambers from Cleveland is doing things exactly how the coaches want him to do it technique-wise these days and he'll train him right. Some players learn best by watching the other guys in action rather than in the film room and on the whiteboard, etc. Monkey see, monkey do. Ted needs to learn how to use his speed appropriately ... like a Formula I driver does ... gotta know how to make those turns just right at the right speed ... and then floor it on the straightaways. He needs to stay in sync with the QB and try to be predictable when the chaos of a real game is going.

 

[JeffJewell]

ck, what do you think of the notion that Ginn is, in fact, one of the "specially gifted" guys that could make an early impact (regardless of how you think Cameron will actually use him)?

His acceleration appears to be unnatural, at times.

 

[HelloMotto]

You're probably right. They may limit Ginn's snaps for exactly that purpose, so that coordinators are more likely to take notice when he does come onto the field with that blazing speed, and so they're more likely to change up how they play defense on those plays. This goes a long way toward making defenses more predictable.

Cameron may also be thinking that he needs to redshirt Ginn this year as a receiver just because he doesn't want him to start having success doing things the wrong way. You could argue that Chris Chambers had success too early doing things the wrong way and he never got completely broken down and built back up into an elite receiver.

Sometimes it can be important for a guy to not see more playing time until he starts doing things the right way, the way the guy ahead of him on the depth chart does it...even if that guy could be inserted right now, do things the wrong way, and still make a positive impact just because he's so physically gifted. If you're aiming to turn Ted Ginn Jr. into an elite pro bowl caliber receiver, it may be best for him to work his way up by doing things correctly from a technique standpoint instead of getting success just by virtue of his running ability.

why the heck would you want the fastest guy on your team sitting on the bench. i watched everygame he has played the last 2 years. i don't think you guys realize how fast he is. There will be no crowding the line of scrimmage when teds in the game. i predict he will be used similiar to reggie bush. ted has very good receiving hands also. he played on the all hands team for onside kick situations. Coach tressell commented that ted had the best set of hands on the team this past year. you guys don't realize what a gem we really have. you will all see soon though.....

 

[finfan54]

Unfortunately Cam Cameron decides everything that is going to happen on the football field, and he seems to be strictly of the mind set that in 2007, Ted Ginn Jr. is primarily a return man. He MAY be lying, flat out lying, though. He may have things in mind on offense that could make Ginn a 500 yard receiver, who knows maybe even an 800 yard guy.

We'll see.

Reading that article makes me dislike Mr. Silver.

However, I love Zach's comments.

I am almost certain we will see Mr. Ginn doing some fly patterns but even moreso doing end arounds and WR screens. He is perfect for those plays.

CK, I know you are pro-Ginn and I know you know I am not. But I do agree with the article because i have felt this since we debated this whole thing.

Obviously, pro-Ginn people will continue to try and crush this obvious feeling that most of us fin fans do not understand this pick at #9 at all with the information we had on this guy. WR's are premadonna's. We could have had Patrick Willis, and i dont care what anyone says about a defensive player. You pick the best friggin player on the board cus you have to pay them that money and you are looking for a guy who will hopefully be the next Zach Thomas or Jason Taylor. Patrick Willis fit that bill moreso than anyone else on the board.......aside from Brady Quinn, who I no longer care about since we have Beck, however, i dont buy the Beck/Ginn pairing theory over Quinn and somebody else. We really didnt need a WR as bad and many could be had in later rounds.

I will bet that Yamon Figurs will do just as much as Ted Ginn jr. as a return specialist.......since this is what Cam says he is going to be these first few years.

 

[finfan54]

dont confuse my agreement with you on this with the fact that the dude can take it to the house and does provide a lethal weapon for us. I just do not think he is worth #9 money or that he will be a dolphin in five years.