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Thoughts on DeVante Parker

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I'm happy first of all because it isn't an obvious monumental screw up. That sort of thing shouldn't deserve praise, but with this group you learn to hold your breath and brace yourself. Gurley would have been a mistake. Perriman would have been a HUGE mistake. There were other options out there that made me cringe.

Parker was my #3 WR, but I have to be honest. I didn't feel much heat about it. I wasn't too passionate. Guys like Agholor or even DGB excited me more, even though I had them rated lower.

Here's what I think we got. I think we got the 2nd best WR prospect in the draft when it comes to being pro ready. Parker ran every route in a pro system and he did it from multiple alignments. That means he knows how to read coverages on the fly from everywhere on the field and how to adjust his route based on his alignment. No minor skill. A lot of NFL receivers never master it. Predictably, therefore, he has some of the subtleties of the position down. How to press the corner away from where the route will be breaking to create room. How to defeat press coverage (even though he's a bit predictable). Gruden mentioned that Parker produced under two different coordinators, showing his intelligence, even though he hardly comes off as fluent mentally when you hear him.

To me, he's ready to go. Plug and play. Agholor was my #3 receiver in that category, despite his inexperience. That's why I had Agholor so high and pumped him often. But Parker is even more of a day one transition. That's even more of a positive for me given my low opinion of our coaching staff in general. White might have been a more enticing lump of clay, but when you're talking about infants maybe that's not what you need.

And then there's the naked production. If Parker had come out last year you might have been able to tag him as the product of an advanced quarterback prospect. But this year the QB play he had was only adequate. A lot of people have made the AJ Green comparison. I can see it. He's sort of a poor man's version. The same thin shoulders and lanky body. I personally like the Keenan Allen comparison better but I can see why people say AJ Green. But here's where the Green comparison really sticks -- Green produced at Georgia no matter who was throwing him the football. Matthew Stafford becomes the #1 overall pick. Then here comes Aaron Murray and people forget but he looked like a solid first rounder early on. People really liked him. I know I did. But when Green sat out with that suspension and Murray really struggled it was like a revelation. Suddenly people understood where the bread was being buttered. And the trend has continued in the NFL. Andy Dalton is similarly to Murray a mediocrity propped up by a great receiver, just as Randy Moss helped along the likes of Daunte Culpepper and Jeff George to momentary respectability.

So how did Louisville fair with and without Parker?

In the seven games he missed the Cardinals went 5-2 (losing to Virginia and Clemson), but if you remove the 66-21 laugher against Murray State the Cardinals averaged 25 points per game.

With Parker back for the stretch run and the hardest part of their schedule the Cardinals went 4-2 (losing to Florida State and Georgia). But despite facing tougher opponents, Louisville averaged 31 points those six games.

Ok, so where are the deficiencies? Parker doesn't play particularly fast, for one. People will tell you he "glides". That's a nice way of saying he's slow. But as the combine proved, he doesn't time slow, which means he plays slow. So my question is: why does he play slow? Can you improve that or is it just the way it is with him? I also wish he ran crisper routes. He'll never be a truly sudden player but sometimes you'll see crispness and then it fades. Generally he's gotten away with rounding things off and still getting open in college (because he has smooth hips and doesn't tip his route imo), but unless you're Josh Gordon that doesn't last in the NFL. Also, while I like the RAC I'm not sure how much of it is Parker actually being a dynamic RAC player. You don't see Cordarelle Paterson-like instincts, agility or acceleration with Parker. I get that Patterson's name is mud now but he is an elite RAC player, and when you watch him it jumps off the screen why that is. There's nothing there with Parker in terms of an identifiable talent to isolate why he produces like he does. That makes his ability to translate it to the NFL an open question, to me.

Ultimately what I see is a big, smooth guy who doesn't tip his hand and knows how to work corners. All receivers have a lot to learn but he's farther along the road than most of them coming out. Is that enough? Because in the NFL what you generally have are really skilled guys without much physical talent (like Jarvis Landry), or physical dynamos where it's not as important how good their technique is (which is what Mike Evans was like last year as a rookie). Parker is a bit of a tweener. Does that make him the best of both worlds or a jack of all trades and a master of none?
 
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AJ Green glides IMO, I'm not to worried about his playing speed.

Spot on writing tho Walrus. Spot ****ing on.
 
4 words sum this pick up for me: Red Zone Jump Balls

Add 2 more words: Day ONE

No waiting for him to come around. He'll be a big target from the first game for Tannehill. DGB I truly believe we would of had to sit on while he works on technique, routes and making himself available.

Parker is ready to be a force.
 
IMO I liked Parker better than White or Cooper. I feel like he can be a true number one WR. He will make more aggressive and athletic catches. His game tape looked better to me in what I wanted for this team. We didn't need speed, we needed a punishing man to get those tough red zone catches.

I thought we stole him, great great choice by the FO.
 
I think it's his quickness below average but once he's past 15+ yards he's as fast any any Receiver out there. What he needs to work on is not getting out done physically from the start of his route. He runs very good routes and something you didn't mention which is arguably he's best trait is his huge catch radius and low drop rate at that. No more will Ryan Tannehill have to worry about overthrowing his receiver when Parker will make up for it!
 
IMO I liked Parker better than White or Cooper. I feel like he can be a true number one WR. He will make more aggressive and athletic catches. His game tape looked better to me in what I wanted for this team. We didn't need speed, we needed a punishing man to get those tough red zone catches.

I thought we stole him, great great choice by the FO.

I had both Cooper and White rated over Parker . . . but I felt for us, fit wise, he was the best option. Jennings/Landry in the middle, Parker on jump balls and in the redzone and Stills stretching the defense . . . . really a great pick for this offense and Ryan Tannehill.
 
I think this guy is icing on the cake for our WR corp.
 
Going by the combines of both Aj green and Devante Parker, they're both identical height and weight (2 pounds difference) and green had 1 more rep than parker in bench press. And we all know aj green is pretty skinny for his size but that didn't stop him. Parker had the better 40 time and vertical.
 
Some feel like he's going to be brought along very slowly and he won't get much immediate playing time outside of the red zone and plays designed for his catch radius, but I disagree. I see Jennings being in more of a mentor/ depth role here. I think our 2 wide sets will mostly be Parker and Landry, and our 3 wides being Parker and Stills on the outside with Landry in the slot (probably run this most often). Obviously, Jennings and Matthews will get their playing time in spots and will play in 4 and 5 wides, be we drafted Parker to be a #1 wide out, and I believe that's what he will be.
Parker can run routes, he's big, he's fast, he's got great hands, he's ****in good to go. Obviously, he'll have issues like every other rookie does, but I agree with your assessment Walrus. Plug n play.
 
Going by the combines of both Aj green and Devante Parker, they're both identical height and weight (2 pounds difference) and green had 1 more rep than parker in bench press. And we all know aj green is pretty skinny for his size but that didn't stop him. Parker had the better 40 time and vertical.

Don't let Parker's frame fool you. Kid is strong...heard this morning he squats over 500 lbs.
 
Don't let Parker's frame fool you. Kid is strong...heard this morning he squats over 500 lbs.

get those feet working better... learn how to use that size and strength and hands in route running... lets do it!!!
 
Pure personal conjecture here, but I believe this guy will benefit from the pass friendly rules in the NFL. The worries over separation are legit, but as stated by an announcer while reviewing tape, "throw it to him, he's open". Ashlon Jeffery was knocked for his lack of seperation in college, but he could win contested catches. Look at him now. Des Bryant gets knocked for seperation issues, but he's Dez Bryant. Different ball players of course, but I digress back to that aforementioned statement, "throw to him, he's open". Potentially the player that pulls down that 3rd and long over and over again. If not, flags aplenty.
 
Some feel like he's going to be brought along very slowly and he won't get much immediate playing time outside of the red zone and plays designed for his catch radius, but I disagree. I see Jennings being in more of a mentor/ depth role here. I think our 2 wide sets will mostly be Parker and Landry, and our 3 wides being Parker and Stills on the outside with Landry in the slot (probably run this most often). Obviously, Jennings and Matthews will get their playing time in spots and will play in 4 and 5 wides, be we drafted Parker to be a #1 wide out, and I believe that's what he will be.
Parker can run routes, he's big, he's fast, he's got great hands, he's ****in good to go. Obviously, he'll have issues like every other rookie does, but I agree with your assessment Walrus. Plug n play.

His playing time depends on if Philbin finally puts a rookie into the mix day 1 and not hand hold till the second year like other rookies.
 
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