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Nate Clements.

Updated Clements tracker-

0 INT, 12 tackles.

Andre Johnson - 3 recepts, 18 yards.
Joey Galloway - 0 recepts, 0 yards. (McGee was on Clayton all day)

Money Nate will make next year- Priceless.
 
Crisis said:
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Nate Clements.

Updated Clements tracker-

0 INT, 6 tackles.

Andre Johnson - 3 recepts, 18 yards.

Money Nate will make next year- Priceless.
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Enjoy him during his last season as a Bill.... :rofl3:
 
Nate is good, but i dont think he is even the best corner in the afc east, much less the AFC.
 
Nate will be a Bill next year. TD will cough up the dough.

Clements is the best corner in the NFL.

Week 1 - Jimmy Smith - 4 recepts, 83 yards. (INT)
Week 2 - Joey Porter - 3 recepts, 45 yards.
Week 4 - David Givens - 4 recepts, 86 yards.
Week 5 - Santana Moss - 2 recepts, 62 yards. (FF)
Week 6 - Chris Chambers - 3 recepts, 23 yards.
Week 7 - Travis Taylor - 2 recepts, 52 yards.
Week 8 - Anquain Boldin - 4 recepts, 50 yards. (SACK)
Week 9 - Santana Moss - 6 recepts, 157 yards. (McGee was covering Moss when he broke a big score to inflate his yard total, and Clements covered McCaries for part of the game, who was 2-27.
Week 10 - David Givens - 5 recepts, 66 yards. (INT)
Week 11 - Torry Holt - 8 recepts, 90 yards. (FF, Punt return TD) - A decent game for Clements, but Bulger also had 45 attempts in the game.
Week 12 - D. Jackson - 4 recepts, 45 yards.
Week 13 - Chris Chambers - 5 recepts, 49 yards. (INT)
Week 14 - Antonio Bryant - 4 recepts, 37 yards. (INT) Most of Bryant's yardage came in garbage time, the Browns had negative offensive yards until late in the 4th quarter.
Week 15 - Chad Johnson - 2 recepts, 10 yards. (FF) Clements shuts down the league's leader in receptions (at the time) to 2 receptions for 10 yards.
Week 16 - Brandon Lloyd - 2 recepts, 25 yards. (INT)
Week 17 - Hines Ward - 2 recepts, 11 yards. (INT for TD)

Here are Champ Bailey's numbers

Week 1 - Eddie Kennison - 6 recepts, 101 yards. (INT)
Week 2 - Jimmy Smith - 3 recepts, 69 yards.
Week 3 - R. Caldwell - 3 recepts, 39 yards.
Week 4 - M. Clayton - 4 recepts, 91 yards.
Week 5 - M. Muhammed - 1 recept, 9 yards.
Week 6 - J. Porter - 3 recepts, 21 yards.
Week 7 - C. Johnson - 7 recepts, 141 yards. (INT)
Week 8 - P. Price - 2 recepts, 59 yards.
Week 9 - A. Johnson - 3 recepts, 28 yards.
Week 11 - J. Horn - 5 recepts, 81 yards. (INT)
Week 12 - J. Porter - 6 recepts, 135 yards.
Week 13 - R. Smith - 4 recepts, 76 yards.
Week 14 - C. Chambers - 5 recepts, 47 yards.
Week 15 - E. Kennison - 7 recepts, 101 yards.
Week 16 - D. Mason - 4 recepts, 65 yards.
Week 17 - M. Harrison - 5 recepts, 33 yards.

For the sake of arguement, here's Chris McAlister's.

Week 1 - Q. Morgan - 1 recept, 51 yards.
Week 2 - H. Ward - 6 recepts, 151 yards. (INT)
Week 3 - C. Johnson - 8 recepts, 99 yards.
Week 4 - J. Morton - 5 recepts, 64 yards. (Eddie Kennison injured)
Week 5 - L. Coles - 3 recepts, 25 yards.
Week 7 - E. Moulds - 6 recepts, 96 yards.
Week 8 - T. Owens - 8 recepts, 101 yards.
Week 9 - A. Bryant - 4 recepts, 43 yards.
Week 10 - S. Moss - 3 recepts, 75 yards.
Week 11 - DNP
Week 12 - D. Branch - 4 recepts, 51 yards.
Week 13 - C. Johnson - 10 recepts, 161 yards.
Week 14 - A. Toomer - 2 recepts, 53 yards.
Week 15 - M. Harrison - 5 recepts, 73 yards.
Week 16 - H. Ward - 3 recepts, 21 yards.
Week 17 - C. Chambers - 4 recepts, 146 yards.


Let's average these numbers out.

Nate Clements stats/game - 3.75 recepts against, 52.875 yards against. (including Santana Moss' inflated yards)
Champ Bailey stats/game - 4.25 recepts against, 68.5 yards against.
Chris McAlister stats/game - 4.8 recepts against, 80.7 yards against.

Add on that Nate Clements had 6 INTs, compared to Champ's 3 and McAlister's 1. Nate Clements also had more sacks and FFs than both. The guy's a playmaker. Bottom-line!

Obviously there is a margin of error in these numbers, but for the most part Nate Clements out-performed the two "top" corners in the league last year.

Still younger than Bailey and McAl too.
 
Crisis said:
Nate will be a Bill next year. TD will cough up the dough.

Clements is the best corner in the NFL.

Week 1 - Jimmy Smith - 4 recepts, 83 yards. (INT)
Week 2 - Joey Porter - 3 recepts, 45 yards.
Week 4 - David Givens - 4 recepts, 86 yards.
Week 5 - Santana Moss - 2 recepts, 62 yards. (FF)
Week 6 - Chris Chambers - 3 recepts, 23 yards.
Week 7 - Travis Taylor - 2 recepts, 52 yards.
Week 8 - Anquain Boldin - 4 recepts, 50 yards. (SACK)
Week 9 - Santana Moss - 6 recepts, 157 yards. (McGee was covering Moss when he broke a big score to inflate his yard total, and Clements covered McCaries for part of the game, who was 2-27.
Week 10 - David Givens - 5 recepts, 66 yards. (INT)
Week 11 - Torry Holt - 8 recepts, 90 yards. (FF, Punt return TD) - A decent game for Clements, but Bulger also had 45 attempts in the game.
Week 12 - D. Jackson - 4 recepts, 45 yards.
Week 13 - Chris Chambers - 5 recepts, 49 yards. (INT)
Week 14 - Antonio Bryant - 4 recepts, 37 yards. (INT) Most of Bryant's yardage came in garbage time, the Browns had negative offensive yards until late in the 4th quarter.
Week 15 - Chad Johnson - 2 recepts, 10 yards. (FF) Clements shuts down the league's leader in receptions (at the time) to 2 receptions for 10 yards.
Week 16 - Brandon Lloyd - 2 recepts, 25 yards. (INT)
Week 17 - Hines Ward - 2 recepts, 11 yards. (INT for TD)

Here are Champ Bailey's numbers

Week 1 - Eddie Kennison - 6 recepts, 101 yards. (INT)
Week 2 - Jimmy Smith - 3 recepts, 69 yards.
Week 3 - R. Caldwell - 3 recepts, 39 yards.
Week 4 - M. Clayton - 4 recepts, 91 yards.
Week 5 - M. Muhammed - 1 recept, 9 yards.
Week 6 - J. Porter - 3 recepts, 21 yards.
Week 7 - C. Johnson - 7 recepts, 141 yards. (INT)
Week 8 - P. Price - 2 recepts, 59 yards.
Week 9 - A. Johnson - 3 recepts, 28 yards.
Week 11 - J. Horn - 5 recepts, 81 yards. (INT)
Week 12 - J. Porter - 6 recepts, 135 yards.
Week 13 - R. Smith - 4 recepts, 76 yards.
Week 14 - C. Chambers - 5 recepts, 47 yards.
Week 15 - E. Kennison - 7 recepts, 101 yards.
Week 16 - D. Mason - 4 recepts, 65 yards.
Week 17 - M. Harrison - 5 recepts, 33 yards.

For the sake of arguement, here's Chris McAlister's.

Week 1 - Q. Morgan - 1 recept, 51 yards.
Week 2 - H. Ward - 6 recepts, 151 yards. (INT)
Week 3 - C. Johnson - 8 recepts, 99 yards.
Week 4 - J. Morton - 5 recepts, 64 yards. (Eddie Kennison injured)
Week 5 - L. Coles - 3 recepts, 25 yards.
Week 7 - E. Moulds - 6 recepts, 96 yards.
Week 8 - T. Owens - 8 recepts, 101 yards.
Week 9 - A. Bryant - 4 recepts, 43 yards.
Week 10 - S. Moss - 3 recepts, 75 yards.
Week 11 - DNP
Week 12 - D. Branch - 4 recepts, 51 yards.
Week 13 - C. Johnson - 10 recepts, 161 yards.
Week 14 - A. Toomer - 2 recepts, 53 yards.
Week 15 - M. Harrison - 5 recepts, 73 yards.
Week 16 - H. Ward - 3 recepts, 21 yards.
Week 17 - C. Chambers - 4 recepts, 146 yards.


Let's average these numbers out.

Nate Clements stats/game - 3.75 recepts against, 52.875 yards against. (including Santana Moss' inflated yards)
Champ Bailey stats/game - 4.25 recepts against, 68.5 yards against.
Chris McAlister stats/game - 4.8 recepts against, 80.7 yards against.

Add on that Nate Clements had 6 INTs, compared to Champ's 3 and McAlister's 1. Nate Clements also had more sacks and FFs than both. The guy's a playmaker. Bottom-line!

Obviously there is a margin of error in these numbers, but for the most part Nate Clements out-performed the two "top" corners in the league last year.

Still younger than Bailey and McAl too.
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Where do you get these stats at man?
 
Clements is the Best, And people will see that this year.

He will be the only guy to man up Randy Moss. The guy is big and strong and runs a 4.30, came in 2nd by a step in the NFL's fastest man contest. He has matured so much. He cant wait for this opportunity. Either can I.

Sad part is, I dont think we give him 20 million up front and 55-60 million that he will make.
 
Im not saying Nate is the best in the league but I am saying Chump Bailey is the most overrated NFL player, thats for sure.
 
Just because all these receivers stats were not great does not make Nate great......many people did not throw to Deion Sanders side of the field either so the receivers he covered never had a great numbers....QB's sometimes will try to beat less experienced DB's and that inflates the "quality" of veteran DB's who are often living off their "rep," and never have to tackle or make a play on good receivers.
 
Timmy54 said:
Nate is good, but i dont think he is even the best corner in the afc east, much less the AFC.
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yeah right. who's the best Madisson?
 
Crisis said:
Nate will be a Bill next year. TD will cough up the dough.

Clements is the best corner in the NFL.

Week 1 - Jimmy Smith - 4 recepts, 83 yards. (INT)
Week 2 - Joey Porter - 3 recepts, 45 yards.
Week 4 - David Givens - 4 recepts, 86 yards.
Week 5 - Santana Moss - 2 recepts, 62 yards. (FF)
Week 6 - Chris Chambers - 3 recepts, 23 yards.
Week 7 - Travis Taylor - 2 recepts, 52 yards.
Week 8 - Anquain Boldin - 4 recepts, 50 yards. (SACK)
Week 9 - Santana Moss - 6 recepts, 157 yards. (McGee was covering Moss when he broke a big score to inflate his yard total, and Clements covered McCaries for part of the game, who was 2-27.
Week 10 - David Givens - 5 recepts, 66 yards. (INT)
Week 11 - Torry Holt - 8 recepts, 90 yards. (FF, Punt return TD) - A decent game for Clements, but Bulger also had 45 attempts in the game.
Week 12 - D. Jackson - 4 recepts, 45 yards.
Week 13 - Chris Chambers - 5 recepts, 49 yards. (INT)
Week 14 - Antonio Bryant - 4 recepts, 37 yards. (INT) Most of Bryant's yardage came in garbage time, the Browns had negative offensive yards until late in the 4th quarter.
Week 15 - Chad Johnson - 2 recepts, 10 yards. (FF) Clements shuts down the league's leader in receptions (at the time) to 2 receptions for 10 yards.
Week 16 - Brandon Lloyd - 2 recepts, 25 yards. (INT)
Week 17 - Hines Ward - 2 recepts, 11 yards. (INT for TD)

Here are Champ Bailey's numbers

Week 1 - Eddie Kennison - 6 recepts, 101 yards. (INT)
Week 2 - Jimmy Smith - 3 recepts, 69 yards.
Week 3 - R. Caldwell - 3 recepts, 39 yards.
Week 4 - M. Clayton - 4 recepts, 91 yards.
Week 5 - M. Muhammed - 1 recept, 9 yards.
Week 6 - J. Porter - 3 recepts, 21 yards.
Week 7 - C. Johnson - 7 recepts, 141 yards. (INT)
Week 8 - P. Price - 2 recepts, 59 yards.
Week 9 - A. Johnson - 3 recepts, 28 yards.
Week 11 - J. Horn - 5 recepts, 81 yards. (INT)
Week 12 - J. Porter - 6 recepts, 135 yards.
Week 13 - R. Smith - 4 recepts, 76 yards.
Week 14 - C. Chambers - 5 recepts, 47 yards.
Week 15 - E. Kennison - 7 recepts, 101 yards.
Week 16 - D. Mason - 4 recepts, 65 yards.
Week 17 - M. Harrison - 5 recepts, 33 yards.

For the sake of arguement, here's Chris McAlister's.

Week 1 - Q. Morgan - 1 recept, 51 yards.
Week 2 - H. Ward - 6 recepts, 151 yards. (INT)
Week 3 - C. Johnson - 8 recepts, 99 yards.
Week 4 - J. Morton - 5 recepts, 64 yards. (Eddie Kennison injured)
Week 5 - L. Coles - 3 recepts, 25 yards.
Week 7 - E. Moulds - 6 recepts, 96 yards.
Week 8 - T. Owens - 8 recepts, 101 yards.
Week 9 - A. Bryant - 4 recepts, 43 yards.
Week 10 - S. Moss - 3 recepts, 75 yards.
Week 11 - DNP
Week 12 - D. Branch - 4 recepts, 51 yards.
Week 13 - C. Johnson - 10 recepts, 161 yards.
Week 14 - A. Toomer - 2 recepts, 53 yards.
Week 15 - M. Harrison - 5 recepts, 73 yards.
Week 16 - H. Ward - 3 recepts, 21 yards.
Week 17 - C. Chambers - 4 recepts, 146 yards.


Let's average these numbers out.

Nate Clements stats/game - 3.75 recepts against, 52.875 yards against. (including Santana Moss' inflated yards)
Champ Bailey stats/game - 4.25 recepts against, 68.5 yards against.
Chris McAlister stats/game - 4.8 recepts against, 80.7 yards against.

Add on that Nate Clements had 6 INTs, compared to Champ's 3 and McAlister's 1. Nate Clements also had more sacks and FFs than both. The guy's a playmaker. Bottom-line!

Obviously there is a margin of error in these numbers, but for the most part Nate Clements out-performed the two "top" corners in the league last year.

Still younger than Bailey and McAl too.
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Ouch!!!
 
Roman529 said:
Just because all these receivers stats were not great does not make Nate great......many people did not throw to Deion Sanders side of the field either so the receivers he covered never had a great numbers....QB's sometimes will try to beat less experienced DB's and that inflates the "quality" of veteran DB's who are often living off their "rep," and never have to tackle or make a play on good receivers.
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You're putting Clements down by comparing him to Deion? LOL.
 
Whether your a Dolphins fan, Bills fan, Jets fan or whatever ... how can you deny that Nate Clements is not the best CB in the league (right now anyway)
 
vanquenton said:
Patrick Surtain
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haha! Clements had better nos. than Surtain last year. I wouldn't go as far as sayng Clements is the best in the league, but he's up there. Besides Timmy was talking about the AFCE too. If Clements isn't, who is?
 
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