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Question for you football genius's.

I am having a rather interesting discussion with a buddy of mine on two seperate subjects.

A conventional 4-3 DT normally does not transalte to 3-4 NT right? Would Tim Bowens worked as NT in a 3-4 scheme?

1)My argument was that Bowens would have made a very very good NT.My friend seems to think that Bowens would not have suceeded as an NT.

I was making the point that I would love to see R. Wright or Randy put on like 15-20lbs this offseason and push for the backup NT. Or even Solai finally come through and become the Nasty NT he was slated to be.

2) My friend as many here want us to draft a NT early. But I like what I saw in Wright in 2007 and solai had his flashes. I think we can develop our own future NT.
Many will argue that they do not have many tackles compared to games played. But I thought the NT's main #1 job was to contain to allow our LB's to make the plays. I remember a few plays that wright not only contained but blew up a couple of plays.

Am I crazy?
Chubbs
 
Tim Bowens would of been a great NT.

and Rod Wright is just more of a penetrator. i dont think his game is suited for NT, regardless of weight.
 
some DTs can make that transition, but its all about your game...

some DTs are smaller and shoot gaps... others are space eaters, and thats what a 3-4 NT has to be a space eater...

Vonnie Holliday in a 4-3 is a DT, but he played end for us in the 3-4... its about size and skill set...

Bowens would have been physically perfect for a NT position, but actually playing it is a different story... but im sure he would have succeeded there, he was a beast
 
The Dolphins played 3-4 schemes when Bowens was coached by Shula. Go watch the famous Marino spike game and you'll see Bowens make 2 great plays in the row to stop the Jets and set the stage for Dan's magic.
 
I always felt like they played with 2 nose tackles. With Gardener for a few years then Chester for his time. They weren't the smallest of dudes either.
 
I always assumed it was a 4-3 with Bowens and Gardner as our DT's. Tell you what though, they were in amazing duo.
Chubbs
 
I can remember a play in a Jets game where Gardner essentially threw the center at the QB.
 
sandcastle said:
The Dolphins played 3-4 schemes when Bowens was coached by Shula. Go watch the famous Marino spike game and you'll see Bowens make 2 great plays in the row to stop the Jets and set the stage for Dan's magic.
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From Bowens' rookie season on, he always played in a 4-3. As a rookie, the other DT was Chuck Klingbeil who played a tilt 1 technique. The DEs were Jeff Cross and Marco Coleman. When Bowens made those back to back plays he was lined up on OG Dwayne White and drove him into the backfield both times disrupting the plays. White used to refer to himself as the "roadgrader", then the rookie Bowens was the one who road graded him on those plays.
 
Tim Bowens was EVERYTHING a you'd want in a 3-4 NT.

And

Ditto for a 4-3 DT. Such an underrated player. He should've seen like 6 or 7 trips to Hawaii.....IIRC I think he only had 2. That always bothered me but thankfully the fins always took care of him and he did the same for us with his constant willingness to restructure his huge salaries.
 
MrClean said:
From Bowens' rookie season on, he always played in a 4-3. .
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Did Olivadotti switch to a pure 4-3 or did they play a 4 man front when Bowens entered the game?

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Edit - It seems that Dolphins switched to a 4-3 for the start of 1993 season.
 
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The Ghost said:
Tim Bowens was EVERYTHING a you'd want in a 3-4 NT.

And

Ditto for a 4-3 DT. Such an underrated player. He should've seen like 6 or 7 trips to Hawaii.....IIRC I think he only had 2. That always bothered me but thankfully the fins always took care of him and he did the same for us with his constant willingness to restructure his huge salaries.
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fun fact, Tim Bowens is the last Miami Dolphin to win a rookie of the year award.

I think a young TBow could've been a great NT, but his back got so bad. Even in his last couple years when he was performing very well, he still had to miss a lot of time due to his back.
 
Gardner and Bowens, you guys bring back fond memories. Those two were together when i was still in middle and elementary school and even then i appreciated them.
 
PhinsRDbest said:
I always felt like they played with 2 nose tackles. With Gardener for a few years then Chester for his time. They weren't the smallest of dudes either.
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Those two were definite beasts, freakish strength and very good agility. But if I remember correctly (correct me if I'm wrong) Bowens didn't have the longest arms, so he might not have been quite as dominating as an NT as he was as a DT. Gardner on the other hand, had all of the physical tools including arm length to do it, but he was taller which sometimes is a disadvantage at NT.

Interesting debate though, as those two were definitely the closest DT's we've had in a long time to being a prototypical NT.
 
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