DolfanF150
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I'm starting to get sick of hearing about how the Bills and Dolphins have "so much more talent" than the Patriots. After last season I truly believed that and figured the 2001 Pats were just a flash in the pan lucky team who was overrated BIG TIME. I hate to break it to you guys but if this team wins 2 Super Bowls in 3 seasons as much as we'd like to believe they are "LUCKY", "NOT TALENTED" and "OVERRATED" we are wrong. Go ahead tell me that the Pats winning the Super Bowl this season won't happen I said the same thing 2 years ago. Does anyone know how many playoff games the Pats have lost at home in the past 10 years? I'm pretty sure it's 0. You wait the Pats are going to get like Denver at home and squeak out a victory then get the Chiefs at Home and embarrass them. They will probably beat either St. Louis (Bulger will probably have like 5 picks) or Philly (who they demolished in week 2) in the super bowl. I want to really take a close look at this talent thing so here goes.
Offensively - I'd take Ricky Williams and Chris Chambers from Miami and Eric Moulds from Buffalo. Randy McMichael is debatable but the Graham, Fauria combo is probably better to have because of depth. I would take Tom Brady as my starting QB (Bills fans don't EVEN start because at this point in time you don't have a leg to stand on), the entire Patriots offensive line (hands down) and all of the Patriot WR's would be on my depth chart before the next Bill or Dolphin WR was mentioned.
Defense - Miami's DE's are the class of the division without a doubt but I'm willing to bet Pats have 4 guys that are better than Miami's next 2. DT's are very close. All are good at stopping the run BUT the Pats seem to generate more of a pass rush up the middle than the other 2 teams because of Seymour. I'd say the talent difference between Bowens, Chester, Adams, Williams, Washington and Seymour (Pats play both 4-3 and 3-4) is very, very close. Once again I'm willing to bet the Pats have the best Depth (but Miami might at this position). Linebacker is interesting. I'd take Zach and Fletcher over Brushci (but I wouldn't throw Tedy out of camp) right at this point in time and TKO would probably come next (who knows if Colvin wasn't out for the season) but Vrabel (who probably leads this group in sacks) Johnson, Phifer and Seau are close (I thought Junior played great and was an upgrade over Rodgers) and Greenwood and Jeff Posey are about the same. Secondary I'd take Law and Surtain as my starting SB's and probably Harrison (way more BIG PLAYS than Marion) and Milloy as my safeties with Nate Clements as my nickel back. I'm positive the Pats have better depth here also.
So basically if I were a head coach in the NFL with these 3 teams to choose players from my starting lineup would look like this.
QB Brady
RB Williams
3rd downs
Faulk
FB Konrad (forgot to mention that)
WR Moulds
WR Chambers
5 wide
WR Brown
WR Branch
WR Givens
TE Graham and Fauria over McMichael
O-LINE
5 Patriots (too lazy to name them)
Defense
DE Taylor
DT Bowens
DT Seymour
DE Ogun
OLB Vrabel
MLB Thomas
OLB Spikes
3-4 Johnson and Phifer
CB Surtain
CB Law
FS Harrison
SS Milloy
NB Clements
Special teams
KR Bethal Johnson
PR Faulk
K Vinitieri
P Moorman
That's 21 total Patriots
8 Fins
5 Bills
Starters
14 Pats
8 fins
4 Bills
The Pats have more talented from line players than the both of us and much better depth IMHO.
Offensively - I'd take Ricky Williams and Chris Chambers from Miami and Eric Moulds from Buffalo. Randy McMichael is debatable but the Graham, Fauria combo is probably better to have because of depth. I would take Tom Brady as my starting QB (Bills fans don't EVEN start because at this point in time you don't have a leg to stand on), the entire Patriots offensive line (hands down) and all of the Patriot WR's would be on my depth chart before the next Bill or Dolphin WR was mentioned.
Defense - Miami's DE's are the class of the division without a doubt but I'm willing to bet Pats have 4 guys that are better than Miami's next 2. DT's are very close. All are good at stopping the run BUT the Pats seem to generate more of a pass rush up the middle than the other 2 teams because of Seymour. I'd say the talent difference between Bowens, Chester, Adams, Williams, Washington and Seymour (Pats play both 4-3 and 3-4) is very, very close. Once again I'm willing to bet the Pats have the best Depth (but Miami might at this position). Linebacker is interesting. I'd take Zach and Fletcher over Brushci (but I wouldn't throw Tedy out of camp) right at this point in time and TKO would probably come next (who knows if Colvin wasn't out for the season) but Vrabel (who probably leads this group in sacks) Johnson, Phifer and Seau are close (I thought Junior played great and was an upgrade over Rodgers) and Greenwood and Jeff Posey are about the same. Secondary I'd take Law and Surtain as my starting SB's and probably Harrison (way more BIG PLAYS than Marion) and Milloy as my safeties with Nate Clements as my nickel back. I'm positive the Pats have better depth here also.
So basically if I were a head coach in the NFL with these 3 teams to choose players from my starting lineup would look like this.
QB Brady
RB Williams
3rd downs
Faulk
FB Konrad (forgot to mention that)
WR Moulds
WR Chambers
5 wide
WR Brown
WR Branch
WR Givens
TE Graham and Fauria over McMichael
O-LINE
5 Patriots (too lazy to name them)
Defense
DE Taylor
DT Bowens
DT Seymour
DE Ogun
OLB Vrabel
MLB Thomas
OLB Spikes
3-4 Johnson and Phifer
CB Surtain
CB Law
FS Harrison
SS Milloy
NB Clements
Special teams
KR Bethal Johnson
PR Faulk
K Vinitieri
P Moorman
That's 21 total Patriots
8 Fins
5 Bills
Starters
14 Pats
8 fins
4 Bills
The Pats have more talented from line players than the both of us and much better depth IMHO.
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