TJ McDonald's non-INT.....

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  1. Heisenphin

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    Am I the only one convinced that this was an INT and that there wasn't enough there to overturn the call on the field of an interception. In the whole scheme of things it might not have changed the outcome of the game, but it was a momentum and spirit killer for us. Cam went into full meltdown mode after that, especially coming off the 2 other dropped passes, and we had the positive turn we needed. To me it looks like he had his hands under the ball and the ball never moved when it came in contact with his body and the ground. That is a catch. They never showed evidence that said otherwise. Maybe I am missing something but it looked like a clear INT until Gruden said they should overturn it, which they did.
     
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    Found it weird they really didn't show the replay much at all after returning from commercial.

    But the last shot before commercial I thought it looked like the ball clearly hit the ground and aided the process of the catch (shame we have to use this type of terminology for NFL rules of what is a catch).

    Still Would of liked another look.
     
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    Nah, you could see the ball hit the ground to assist him catching it. Would’ve been awesome for him, first game back, the play after Cam was laughing and being his ****y self after ducking McDonald’s hit
     
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    Would of liked a "still shot" of the Mcaffrey td where his knees seemed to come up before completing the process of the catch.
     
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    As far as determining what is a catch...

    From the original view it looks like a catch. From the side the ball was on the ground but at the same time his hands were under the ball and the ball didn't look like it moved. By that rule it should have been an INT.

    The fact we didn't even get more views or an any announcement afterwards was weird as well. Just here comes the O and D back onto the field.
     
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    See my other reply. That is fine as long as he maintains control and the ball isn't moving. Sure didn't look like it was moving based on the angles we had.
     
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    Wasn't a catch....I rewound and watched at least 6 times trying to convince myself it should be but could see the ball touch the ground and him not have full control of it.
     
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    Very interesting reading the official explanation. It appeared his hands were on it before it hit the ground. But it seems like any time there is any ground contact at all that they call it incomplete
     
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    I thought, based on the last replay they showed before the commercial break, that the ball definitely hit the floor. He didn't have control of the ball until after.
     
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    It hit the ground...get over it.
     
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    That was not an interception, the ball moved when it touched the ground. The mcafree play, there wasn't enough there to overturn. Offense was putrid and the defense stayed in the locker room at halftime.
     
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    no interception, trapped
     
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    Ball clearly hit the ground, I thought.

    However on the flip side, I also thought that the McCaffrey TD was a non-catch.
     
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    Of all things for us to stress about...
     
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    Just a talking point, i don't think anybody is stressing.
     
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    Hey dudes, I saw it live, and he was facing us, and was really close, so I saw the Whole thing, I knew it was not an INT from the beginning, saw the ball actually hit the ground, it was cool, would have been better if it was an INT, but cool to see it so close up.

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    I was at the game. It wasn't an INT.

    The game was over when Cutler forced the throw before half that led to another Panthers TD.
     
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    Hey MIZ, I really don't think he tried to force it, I mean, we will never know for sure, but the thing I saw was just a poor pass basically behind the receiver. Seeing as the receiver was almost at the 35, and he threw low to right at the 33 or so. I think it might have been designed to go a bit past the 35, maybe even to the 40 or so. It just looked like a weak pass to me.

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    It hit the ground
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. Horrible call.
     
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    As soon as I saw the replay, I knew it would be overturned. Blatantly not a catch.
     
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    I only saw one replay and it didn't reveal anything. Did they even show it close up?
     
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    It clearly hit the ground. At first, he sure as hell made it appear otherwise. If he had it and the ball moved when it hit the ground, maybe they would have kept the call the same. The replay shows the ball hit the ground. It was def an int that could have been caught. I was so pumped than pissed once I seen the replay lol
     
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    I rewatched it and hit definitely hit the ground. No doubt about it and easy call and the right call
     
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    That's a pretty bad angle but the ball rubbed the ground without TJ having his hands under it. It def should have been caught but nice instincts. These are the type of plays we'll have to convert if we want to get back on track.
     

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