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To All You Feeley Supporters

finnyboy002 said:
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Again, there's just no point in Frerotte being our starter, as a matter of fact, he's just the perfect back-up. Old vetran that knows the system.


Unfortunatly we dont have a starter for him to back up which maked him an old vet that knows the system and starting....ala Earl Morrell.
 
Dolphin$ said:
it doesn't matter but the 42 yard pass was to wes welker. and if you take that out of the of gus's total how many yards per completion does he have. he would only have 6 completion for 35 or so yards.

If you doing that then you might as well add the 4 or 5 droppes passes.
 
thebigshow405 said:
Do you realize A) The majority of Feeley's "completions" were under 10 yards. B) The fact that his throws were short eliminated his major weakness, that is, dealing with the blitz C) Gus' pocket awareness is light years better than Feeley's cuz he can actually "feel" the pass rush, as was evident in his bomb to chambers 60+ yards. D) Give Gus credit for McMichael's EASY three drops, 2 of the 4 incompletions to Chambers (to be conservative) and one to Booker down the sidelines near the endzone, and we are now looking at 200 yards with comparable completion percentage ANDDDDDDDD points on the board. If none of that was enough to convince you, just look at the last play of the first half with Feeley. That play was quite frankly one of the most embarrassing things the Dolphins have ever done, even more embarrassing than the false start last year on "everyone but the center". Gus is our man.

Neither QB is a "man" right now. To be honest, I don't think either one is to do well until our O-line gets better, and the team learns the new system. I think by game 4 we should be doing a lot better. But I still say start Feeley at least half of the games this year because we need to know if his "potential" is untapped, or if he is just a flat beer keg not worthing drinking.
 
FiN.in.RI said:
Well he's right. 110%, r--i--g--h--t
He is? Is that why I watched a Steeler run 60+ yards for a TD with a Gus fumble, because of his great pocket awareness?

The fact is neither Gus nor AJ have shown they have starter ability. Gus has had 12 years to do it though & AJ not as many.
 
Were you aware that every play was like a blitz, with the OL looking like a sieve? Your supposed to just get the ball off and take what you can. I think that addressed the situation very well.
 
thebigshow405 said:
Do you realize A) The majority of Feeley's "completions" were under 10 yards.
Nothing wrong with that. I'll take a 5 yard completion over a 30 incompletion.


thebigshow405 said:
B) The fact that his throws were short eliminated his major weakness, that is, dealing with the blitz
Why is this a problem?

thebigshow405 said:
C) Gus' pocket awareness is light years better than Feeley's cuz he can actually "feel" the pass rush, as was evident in his bomb to chambers 60+ yards.
Is that why the Steelers scored a TD off of a fumble of his?


thebigshow405 said:
D) Give Gus credit for McMichael's EASY three drops, 2 of the 4 incompletions to Chambers (to be conservative) and one to Booker down the sidelines near the endzone, and we are now looking at 200 yards with comparable completion percentage ANDDDDDDDD points on the board.
No credit for incomplete passes.


thebigshow405 said:
If none of that was enough to convince you, just look at the last play of the first half with Feeley. That play was quite frankly one of the most embarrassing things the Dolphins have ever done, even more embarrassing than the false start last year on "everyone but the center". Gus is our man.
What was so embarrassing about it?
 
Dphins4me said:
Nothing wrong with that. I'll take a 5 yard completion over a 30 incompletion.



Why is this a problem?

Is that why the Steelers scored a TD off of a fumble of his?



No credit for incomplete passes.



What was so embarrassing about it?

You're are absolutely right, I cannot believe people are bashing Feeley for completing short passes, he took what he could get and moved the team.
 
thebigshow405 said:
In other words, given Gus' knowledge of the offense and his veteran status, and given feeley's history of turnovers, the job is Gus' to lose. Have any of you seen ANYTHING from Feeley which makes you say, Feeley has earned the starting job????????????
I'll tell ya this, the fact Gus is not pulling away & making AJ look horrible in this offense tells me he might not be the answer. Gus has played 2 years in this offense & he still is not getting it done.

As for AJ history of TO. Obviously you have not checked out Gus's career stats. Gus has 11 more TD's than picks over his career. Now I do not know how many fumbles he has, but I'd lay odds its more than 11.
 
Show me a play where Feeley was pass rushed in that game where he felt the rush, stepped up, and made the play.

Uuuuummmmm. New England. Last year. To win the game. Don't like that one? How about San Francisco? Several tough throws for long yardage.

You people are unbelievable. All most of us want is a FAIR competition. Ferrotte was terrible Saturday night and Feeley was solid. What does this mean? In a fair competition, it means that Feeley should get the start against the Bucs. That's all it buys him. Feeley is improving with each game - which is to be expected as he learns the offense. Ferrotte, while a solid player, has not played starting caliber football playing in an offense he's been in four years.

I'm not saying Feeley should be given the job now, but he's earned a start with the first team offense. And overall, Feeley is improving. Ferrotte is not.

I'll tell you one thing: I'm happy that we have Ferrotte and not Fiedler. At least Ferrotte can hit the deep ball. Feeley is the future though. He improves every week and we'll be fine.
 
ScrepsMJ said:
You're are absolutely right, I cannot believe people are bashing Feeley for completing short passes, he took what he could get and moved the team.
That is like people complaining about winning games 14-10. Seems they would rather lose 39-35.

Winning ugly is better than losing pretty any day.

Same goes with this. Completing short passes is better than incomplete ones 30 yards down the field.

To me, its more about confidence building for AJ. He had a solid game, nothing special, but solid.

Besides isn't the short passes how San Fran made their name. The WR need to break a few tackles.
 
Show me a play where Feeley was pass rushed in that game where he felt the rush, stepped up, and made the play.

You can't limit the examples to three quarters of football, most of which were with 2nd string Oline.
 
thebigshow405 said:
who do the players want to start?
The players last year wanted Jay Fiedler. That should tell you players do not know much, even though he had came up the previous 4 years.
 
jphandal said:
I AM NOt saying ferotte is dan marino but, c'mon, feely has absolutely no upside...and he single handedly lost 4 or 5 games for us....

ok

name the games he has single handedly cost us?

The Seattle game sure
Buffalo- Ummm sure if you discount the fact that our defense still gave up over 35 points while he scored 32.
Denver- wrong again
Arizona- wrong again. Stupid penalties roughing the passer on Thomas negated almost a game ensuiring INT by Knight. And another boneheaded holding penalty on Madison that rather then stopping a 4th down play led to a first and goal and the game winning score.

Where are these games u speak of?

It is absurd.

I can name atleast 10 games in the last 3 years that the defense has lost us so let's go get rid of them too.

NE with the 11 point lead they let go by
Philly when they couldn't stop Westbrook
Minny when they couldn't make a stop on Culpepper on 4th and 1
Buffalo last year- Giving up 42 points, come on
Arizona last year- already explained above
KC 2002- please another 40+ points given up
Houston 2003- Don't even blame Fiedler, defense couldn't stop nor could they get to the most sacked QB the previous year
INDY 2003- Multiple times having a chance to stop then on 3rd or 4th but couldn'nt
Tennessee 2003- From the moment the game started they couldn't stop the Titans offense

So by your logic the whole team sucks and it's time to clean house.
 
I want AJ in there this week with the first team during practice. I'd also like to see Middleton put in at RG, if he can handle the reps. Hadnot should move to Center and we should solidify this line now. The staff has had all offseason to evaluate. They ought to know by now who the best 5 guys are, at least. So get them cohesive and repping all together this week for Tampa Bay.

And I think that it's time to say that Boston deserves a first-team look at the LWR position and strong consideration be given to moving Booker to flanker, with Welker the 4th receiver in the spread.
 
thebigshow405 said:
Show me a play where Feeley was pass rushed in that game where he felt the rush, stepped up, and made the play. The fact is, the Steelers basically stopped pressuring the QB allowing feeley to do what he does best: Light up prevent defenses LIKE HE DID IN THE SECOND HALF OF GAME 1 LAST YEAR AND THEN EVERYONE THOUGHT HE WAS THE SAVIOR CUZ HE BURNT THE TITANS DROP BACK DEFENSE IN A HURRY UP 5 WR SET

Hey man, unless you're dating Gus, Take it easy. Take a Valium and a nap. You obviously need the rest.

The person who performs the best according to Saban (who I trust implicitly), will be our starting QB period.
 
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