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To all you Wade Smith lovers........

BeatCrazy2 said:
For one, I watched every single minute of every dolphin game and Smith did repeatedly get used quite a bit. Not just by probowlers either. Why would I or anyone else want to simply make up that our LT was horrible?
Not saying anyone is making it up. However most remember only the Colts & Titans games when Smith was terrible. I too also watch every single minute of every dolphins game. I know Smith did not set the world on fire, nor did he get beat repeatedly. Smith showed he had what it takes to play the position. I think the people wanting to bash Smith simply are expecting more from him than he can do at this point of his career. Smith was a 3rd round develpomental pick. He was not NFL ready last year and I think he did a excellent job considering his lack of knowledge playing the position. He had only played it one year in college.

How many stud tackles coming out of college start their rookie year at LT?

Very few.

Leonard Davis the No. 2 pick in the draft a few years ago has played guard until being moved out to tackle this year.


BeatCrazy2 said:
Do you think that is some type of fun conversation? And no I could not pinpoint every single incident because I tend to block bad dolphin moments like that out of my long term memory. Not to mention , I'm not watching wade frickin smith on every single snap, and neither is the camera man. But I did realize that the QB was being chased from behind and running for his life more times than not. And any time when they zoomed in on Wade , he was extremely slow getting in his stance and the D lineman blew by him very easily.
Funny you say that be many NFL people talk just the opposite about him.
Smith does needs to improve on what he started last year. His play last year was not good enough for a starting LT, however for where he came from and what was originally expected of him I think he did an excellant job.

BeatCrazy2 said:
I had never seen any D lineman go someone that easily actually. The reason that you and all of us distinctly remember the games againsnt freeney and kearse is because he LOST the game for us. We played very good opponents and fought back to have a chance to win those games and his mistakes cost us the game.
Smith did not cost Miami either game. The Titans dominated the Phins from the beginning. The Colts game ended on a fumble by BG who was not hit hard from behind and also it may have been Smiths man who did it, but RW blocked Smith on that play instead of Freeney. How is it Smiths fault when the RB comes up and hits him instead of the defensive man?

BeatCrazy2 said:
Yes he was a rookie, and yes he was thrown out there, I've heard all of this a 100 times. But that doesn't mean he is good. He is put on the field to do one thing, BLOCK. If he can't do it, why is he ont the field. Thats my question.
He is good or at least he was last year. He had two bad games. Sure he did get beat from time to time. Tell me a LT that is not? Smith went up against other teams best pass rushers every week. Tell me someone else outside of those two games that had a great game against him.

People keep saying how poorly he played, but when ask to give some examples. No one can. Why?
 
BeatCrazy2 said:
Those stats are actually not awful but most of that was because Feidler was aware that wade sucked and rolled to his right as soon as the ball was snapped. Griese however did not and we all know what happened there.
JF did not rollright as soon as the ball was snapped. That comment proves you really paid no attention to anything about this subject.
 
I think Spielman thinks a little bit like Smith's detractors actually. We've brought in an awful lot of tackles this off season. Smith might be a lock in Wanndstedt's little mind but maybe not in Spielman's. BUt I mean honestly, you guys that are complaining about Smith, sorry he's about all we got right now. It's going to take Speilman a couple years to repair the damage Wanndstedt's done to this offense-line.
 
musphinzfan said:
Lets face it Wade is doing ok for playing out of position.Hes a guard and thats,that.
Smith has never played guard in his college or professional career. What makes him a guard? As much as everyone here is bashing his pass blocking, that is really where he is better than as an inline drive blocker in the run game. Unless you want guards that can't muscle, maul and drive defenders out of the hole, I don't know why anyone would want Smith to play guard.

He is still green. Last year was his 2nd year ever to play OLT. It's not his fault that he was thrown to the wolves so early. I think it is a positive that he was not called for one penalty all year. The FO screwed up in thinking Dixon could come back and stay healthy, instead of pursuing a solid veteran left tackle like Wayne Gandy. It often takes OLs some time to get up to speed for the NFL. Guys like Todd Wade who can come in and start and do well as a rookie, are the exception overall, not the rule. Jeno James was drafted in 2000 and last year was his first to really begin to make a name for himself, his 4th year in the league!
Eventually, Smith can become a very good finesse pass blocking left tackle ala Derrick Deese. He has the feet, quickness and AA, he just needs more experience before we see the best he has to offer.
 
Brad528 said:
Not to mention the blindside fumbled that was cause by his missed block after Buckley made an INT with a little under two minutes left inside the 20 when we were down by six

DID YOU MISS RICKY JUST STANDING THERE NOT LAYING A HAND ON FREENEY
AFTER HE BEAT SMITH, THE PLAY WAS TO THE OTHER SIDE AND RICKY WAS NOT IN THE PLAY, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SEAL THE BACK SIDE.
 
DPlus47 said:
in the second NE game, wasn't the key play a harrison blitz from the opposite side of where smith plays? a blitz somebody other than smith should have picked up? that game was the LT's fault, even if the harrison blitz never happened?
Yeah, it was a missed block by McMichael, that led to a Fiedler fumble when we were in FG range down 3-0 at the time.
 
Sherif said:
What do you mean whom else? You take away Wade Smith and Mare's screw ups last year and we'd be 13-3. Each screw up in their case was critical and a game turning one. Against Indy and the NE last game Wade played poorly. Against NE's first Game Mare cost us. :yell:
If you take away McMichael's holding penalty against Houston and missed blitz pickup at NE, we may have been 12-4.
 
DPlus47 said:
in the second NE game, wasn't the key play a harrison blitz from the opposite side of where smith plays? a blitz somebody other than smith should have picked up? that game was the LT's fault, even if the harrison blitz never happened?
If I'm not mistaken. Harrison came from the left side of the D, which would be the right side of the O. Meaning that was Wade tackle spot, but it was McMicheals who missed the block.
 
You are all honestly ridiculous with your dumb excuses of why he sucks, and why its ok that he sucks, and how its not his fault that he sucks, and its ricky's fault that he sucks, and its mcmichaels fault that he sucks. I am honestly sorry I posted this because I've had to realize how ignorant so many of you really are. I don't know if he sucked off half the fan base or what but man does he have some people fooled. I know we don't have much better right now so I would be just as happy as any of you to see him succeed. I just don't think its gonna happen. Thats all I'm saying. I'll make sure I document every mistake he makes this year since so many of you apparently watch the games blindfolded. And yes, Feidler did roll to his right........ ALOT !
 
BeatCrazy2 said:
You are all honestly ridiculous with your dumb excuses of why he sucks, and why its ok that he sucks, and how its not his fault that he sucks, and its ricky's fault that he sucks, and its mcmichaels fault that he sucks. I am honestly sorry I posted this because I've had to realize how ignorant so many of you really are. I don't know if he sucked off half the fan base or what but man does he have some people fooled. I know we don't have much better right now so I would be just as happy as any of you to see him succeed. I just don't think its gonna happen. Thats all I'm saying. I'll make sure I document every mistake he makes this year since so many of you apparently watch the games blindfolded. And yes, Feidler did roll to his right........ ALOT !

I am so convinced you are right now.
 
I think Smith did a good job for a rookie and a 3rd rd pick who only played LT one year at Memphis. Who could have played better at LT last year on our team? Give him a break.
 
The Line Should Look Like This!!!

Jeno James
Vernon Carey
Seth Mckinney
John St. Clair
Damion Mcntosh (by The Way He Is Back Against Tennessee)
 
BeatCrazy2 said:
You are all honestly ridiculous with your dumb excuses of why he sucks, and why its ok that he sucks, and how its not his fault that he sucks, and its ricky's fault that he sucks, and its mcmichaels fault that he sucks. I am honestly sorry I posted this because I've had to realize how ignorant so many of you really are. I don't know if he sucked off half the fan base or what but man does he have some people fooled. I know we don't have much better right now so I would be just as happy as any of you to see him succeed. I just don't think its gonna happen. Thats all I'm saying. I'll make sure I document every mistake he makes this year since so many of you apparently watch the games blindfolded. And yes, Feidler did roll to his right........ ALOT !
So because people see things differently than you, and understand there are other factors in place here. Then they are ignorant?

Hmm Interesting.

You are by far the smartest person here and know more about football than any of us. Yet you choose to lash out at people when they actually want you to back up a statement. :rolleyes: Silly us. I would think if his play was as poor as you are making it out to be, then pointing out his failures would be more easy.

No one said that Smith did not need to improve. His play while good for all factors considered does need to get better. Its just that some of us do realize that not all players walk into the NFL, NFL ready. Smith was not NFL ready and to say he sucks without factoring in that he is very raw is the part that is not the smartest thing anyone has ever said. Smith has everything you need in a LT, especially the quickness. He needs to learn technique and get stronger. He supposedly has gotten stronger and should be learning everything else. Give him time to grow, its not like Miami is going anywhere this year.

Also for JF rolling out. Ever heard of a designed rollout? Its a play JF runs pretty good because he plays better out of the pocket. No you never thought of that. Now did ya?
 
Dphins4me said:
So because people see things differently than you, and understand there are other factors in place here. Then they are ignorant?

Hmm Interesting.

You are by far the smartest person here and know more about football than any of us. Yet you choose to lash out at people when they actually want you to back up a statement. :rolleyes: Silly us. I would think if his play was as poor as you are making it out to be, then pointing out his failures would be more easy.

No one said that Smith did not need to improve. His play while good for all factors considered does need to get better. Its just that some of us do realize that not all players walk into the NFL, NFL ready. Smith was not NFL ready and to say he sucks without factoring in that he is very raw is the part that is not the smartest thing anyone has ever said. Smith has everything you need in a LT, especially the quickness. He needs to learn technique and get stronger. He supposedly has gotten stronger and should be learning everything else. Give him time to grow, its not like Miami is going anywhere this year.

Also for JF rolling out. Ever heard of a designed rollout? Its a play JF runs pretty good because he plays better out of the pocket. No you never thought of that. Now did ya?


Well I wasn't talking about how good he is in three years when he's ready was I.(if that ever happens which I doubt) I was talking about Last year and NOW. He should not be on the field NOW. You should learn your damn techniques before you hit the field as a starter for a professional football team.

And yes I was well aware that Jay has plays designed for him to roll out. And I think those plays were used alot more than usual due to the lack of "technique and strength" at the LT position. Jay also improvised quite a bit though and rolled out on his own. He had a much better instinct than BG and new when to evacuate the pocket.
 
Well, I suppose now is an excellent time to say " I told you so"

The problem is I'm pissed off I was right

Cut his fat a$$ !
 
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