TO Would NOT hurt this team!!!!

[Butterfrog 2.0]

I think a whole lot of you are failing to realize something when you say TO ruined two teams, and will do the same to/in Miami. Miami has a MUCH better group (character wise)of players and are much more of a "team" than Philly or San Fran was. There is NO WAY any player comes in and ruins this team, or divides that locker room. I don't even see it as a possibility. Nobody on the team is as stupid as Mcnabb, Pulling the race card over all this mess was absolutely REDICULOUS. I mean how can you possibly say that Just because TO mentioned a white QB that it was black on black crime, and say if TO said Mcnair, or Brooks or whatever it would have been ok???? Well let's see Mcdumb***......... How Bout because Favre is BETTER than all those guys, has won championships/MVP's, and will be an Instant hall of famer???? That right there should tell Everybody that TO is NOT Solely to blame for everything that has happened, now he Did bring a whole lot of it on himself, and he might have been somewhat the root of the problem, but no real leader and no real team lets it go as far as it did. Can you honestly say that the whole ordeal wasn't escalated by a lot of the Mcnabb's and the rest of the teams actions??? Another thing I think some of you are failing to realize is who our coach is.........Saban made a player cry this past season for Christ's sake, do you really really think he would let any player, or even a group of players disturb what he's trying to do???? NO WAY!!!!!!!!

 

[RoKnRuiN]

Another thing I think some of you are failing to realize is who our coach is.........Saban made a player cry this past season for Christ's sake, do you really really think he would let any player, or even a group of players disturb what he's trying to do???? NO WAY!!!!!!!!

Which is why T.O. will NOT be on this team.

 

[Puffboy(ricky)]

Which is why T.O. will NOT be on this team.

Wow, didn't take much to slap the lips off the point of this thread:sidelol:

 

[Boomer]

So you were in the Philly and San Fran locker rooms to know how much better Miami's were?

And so Owens had nothing to do with the situation with Gregg Knapp and Jeff Garcia, repeatedly calling Garcia out in the media?

Terrell Owens is a cancer and not one needed by this team.

 

[FSUPhin]

Prior to TO's arrival Philly had been to 3 straight NFC Championship games. They were a "team". He ripped the team apart by pointing fingers because he wasn't getting his way with his contract. I understand player holdouts and strategies to sway the FO into giving you what you want contractually, but not at the expense of the rest of the team. We don't need that in Miami. We're going in the right direction and can fill holes with players who are far less of a risk. Saban showed he can turn a 4-12 team into a 9-7 team in one year with a few draft picks and low-scale signings here and there. He's going to have cap room to make a couple more signings and draft a couple more players, theres no need to throw a poisonous player like T.O. in the mix.

 

[EBMisfit]

Can you honestly say that the whole ordeal wasn't escalated by a lot of the Mcnabb's and the rest of the teams actions?

Well, if nothing was started by T.O., there wouldn't have been anything to escalate.

Wow, didn't take much to slap the lips off the point of this thread:sidelol:

Sounds... painful.

 

[csabe]

So you were in the Philly and San Fran locker rooms to know how much better Miami's were?

And so Owens had nothing to do with the situation with Gregg Knapp and Jeff Garcia, repeatedly calling Garcia out in the media?

Terrell Owens is a cancer and not one needed by this team.

:yeahthat:

 

[DreamWeaver]

These threads get more and more "REDICULOUS" each day.....:goof:

 

[Butterfrog 2.0]

Prior to TO's arrival Philly had been to 3 straight NFC Championship games. They were a "team". He ripped the team apart by pointing fingers because he wasn't getting his way with his contract.

You are Completely Missing the point....... A Player cannot and should not be able to disrupt an entire "team". If he does or can then that "team" was not nearly as strong as you think. When I was in the Army we had several Soldiers who were crap, they didn't want to work, or train, or they showed up drunk for duty, or did drugs, or got into fights with other team/squad/platoon members, Hell we even had Bosses(Platoon Sgt's/1st SGT's who were idiots)but do you think it ruined our whole Platoon???? NO, A strong team, or unit, does not let any one person or any small group of people for that matter disrupt their mission or goal. It's just that simple.

 

[Dolfan11]

Prior to TO's arrival Philly had been to 3 straight NFC Championship games. They were a "team". He ripped the team apart by pointing fingers because he wasn't getting his way with his contract.

I know he could of gone about it another way, but when you have one of the best WR in the league, and he's out performing expectations; as an organization, you have to reward your players. I feel if the Eagles would have just given him what he deserved, then none of this jibberish would have occured within the Eagles franchise. I believe he's in a hole right now, and he will do whatever it takes to dig himself out. Even if it's playing for less money for one year, and showcasing sportsmanship as well as teamwork, to prove to everyone he's just a man who wants what he deserves. When given that, he is a reciever like no other.

 

[Ohio Fanatic]

Miami has a MUCH better group (character wise)of players and are much more of a "team" than Philly or San Fran was. There is NO WAY any player comes in and ruins this team, or divides that locker room.

Gee thanks oh mighty guru. Your knowledge of the inner workings of the philly locker room are critical for Saban signing TO.:shakeno: While I am not necessarily against signing TO anymore, this post makes conclusions that are really stupid.

 

[LOCAL SCUM!]

Outlawd2u: (and the rest of you T.O worshipers)-
You mean that WASN'T TO on the sideline last year SCREAMING at the Eagles Offensive Coordinator and carrying on like a little kid whose toy was taken away?? And That wasn't TO talking smack to Donovan during a game also?? And That wasn't TO who physically fought the team leader IN the locker room? (Brian Dawkins I think). And that wasn't TO who publicly criticized Donovan (a QB in the DAM super bowl) about his performance IN that Super Bowl?? Then..later Wasn't that TO who REFUSED to apologize to Donovan and the rest of his team mates after he was a SCUMBAG?? ANd in San Fran, wasn't that T.O who started calling his QB (jeff Garcia) GAY?! (even though Garcia has got one of the Hottest chicks as his girlfriend)

Oh, So the WHOLE WORLD must have had the wrong guy, huh??? T.O doesn't do those things?? If T.O talked crap about DONOVAN (a top QB in the NFL today) what do you THINK he's gonna spew out of his mouth about Gus Frerrotte??! Plus on those other teams, he was the ONLY real receiver there. What do you think he's gonna start saying when Cris Chambers is out there doing his thang and T.O aint getting the ball enough?? WAAA, WAAA-WAAAA! He's gonna cry like a girl. Gimme a BREAK! Just cause you want him REAAL Bad on your team doesnt' mean he isn't what he is. It doesn't take away what he Did/DOES. Call a spade a spade.

 

[Justasportsfan]

Miami has a MUCH better group (character wise)of players and are much more of a "team" than Philly or San Fran was.

that's a very huge statement to make considering that Mcnabb and the Eagles have had more success than the fins over the years with or without TO.

 

[krazikarl]

TO is never a problem where it matters - on the field. On the contrary, he is one of the hardest working, toughest players at his position in the league. Also, he has what our offense lacks - the confidence to perform at all times and be an in-game leader. He is paid to play football and sell tickets, not to be a public cheerleader.

Philly fell apart because McNabb was hurt, they couldn't/wouldn't run the ball, and the NFC East got significantly tougher than it had been the previous 4 years (as evidenced by two playoff teams and one team that was on the playoff bubble, despite the fact that they all had games against each other). Furthermore, Philly never actually made it to the SB, and if they had in those previous years they would've gotten crushed by the AFC team they would have faced. Nevermind he was Philly's MVP the year they went to the SB.

SanFran fell apart for cap and talent management issues, as evidenced by their current state, perennially in the NFL cellar.

Poor management, injuries, and tougher competition had significantly more to do with those teams falling off than any issues with TO.

Before you all go off on how Philly has great management, notice their past few major free agent gains/losses: they overpaid for Jevon Kearse, lost corey simon, two cbs who are still playing high level football, lost trotter before signing him back a year later. One common trend in all their free agent losses: acrimonious negotiations that led to players badmouthing the team after leaving, to levels beyond what is usual with the loss of free agents in the NFL (even Hugh Douglas was an example of this). Furthermore, notice that very few Philly players came to McNabb's aid when TO "threw him under the bus" - from public evidence it would seem that TO was more liked in that 'lockeroom' than Philly's other marquee player.

In conclusion: 1.TO has a much more significant posotive effect than he does a negative effect 2.The teams he 'destroyed' were actually brought down by other factors which poor managers blamed on TO bc he is a highly visible, vocal critic of poor situations. 3.Chemistry comes with winning, not the other way around.4.He is a top-3 receiver in this league; talent wins.

 

[Butterfrog 2.0]

So you were in the Philly and San Fran locker rooms to know how much better Miami's were?

And so Owens had nothing to do with the situation with Gregg Knapp and Jeff Garcia, repeatedly calling Garcia out in the media?

Terrell Owens is a cancer and not one needed by this team.

I said that TO was a big part of his own problem, but he was not the only problem with those two teams. Look, this is not a thread/statement to say we should Definitely get TO, and I hope to god that we get him because.........

For 1...... It may not be the best situation simply because the money that would have to be used on TO could possibly be used on 2 or more players that could/would help this team

And 2...... I don't really feel as thoug we NEED another star WR, we already have Chambers who IMO is AWESOME, and we NEED other players in differen't areas

What I'm trying to say is if we did get him then it will be OK. He will not rip apart the team, he will not ruin what Saban is trying to do, he will only make plays on the field, and if he does something stupid Saban will ship his *** out.......EASY!!!