Too Early To Give Up On Gase And Tannehill

[Finlawyer]

The outrage felt by our loss to the Bengals is recognition that we could have and should have won. We won the first 40 minutes and lost the last 20 minutes. We lost based on turnovers, questionable penalties and injuries. We gave the Bengals new life and they capitalized.

I am not ready to make drastic change over this game. Several teams better than us with better QBs lost yesterday Winning requires success in all three phases. The defense is better this year when Jones is playing. The offense is struggling with replacement linemen and predictable playcalling.

I thought the OL played well yesterday until the Tunsil injury.

The penalty on TJ McDonald was bogus. TJ could not have known when he committed to tackle that the ball was high and not going to be caught. Avoiding contact is how New Orleans lost the playoff game to the Vikings.

Tannehill then wet the bed twice and we lost a game we could have won. Tannehill lost the game. Gase is ultimately responsible for the loss. We should have decent backups for all lineman.

Nobody expected to make the superbowl this year. Rams and Chiefs look unstoppable. We need to draft and develop a second QB that can take over. Tannehill will be let go after this year if he does not improve unless he rewrites his contract. If Tannehill fails, Gase will probably be let go.

Let's see what happens.

 

[andyahs]

Reading the forum last week very few if any had us with a win........with that being said we should have won and the defense had us winning until Tannehill lost that game plain and simple. Gase I am still on board with.......Tannehill not so much.

 

[The Bopkin]

I honestly believed that with a good cast around him Tannehill could get the job done. Maybe not a super bowl, but get us into the playoffs and win.
We all have our breaking points, and they vary from person to person. They are subjective. Mine was yesterday. That play on third and half a yard was it. And it was I believe the second time this year they tried that same thing and it didn't work the first time.

 

[mrbunglez]

I’m over Tannehill, the guy disappears in big situations. Also can’t carry this team on his shoulders, he needs everything around him 100% and that’s never going to happen.

 

[Yessir]

82 starts isn’t enough of sample size for you? Lmaoo

 

[Dolphins81]

Gase has been here for 3 years and we are the same pathetic team. All I keep hearing is excuses. There is no excuse. This team is a failure from the top down and it’s time to clean house. Anyone who has any football knowledge can see that Gase is not HC material. He is inept at gameplanning and play calling. Gase is clearly horrible at preparing his team physically and mentally. Miami is about as tough as a powderpuff team. “Let’s see what happens” what continue to watch this train wreck and not do anything about it. Yeah, that sounds like a solid plan. The type of mentality that is the reason why we continue to be a mediocre team. We will be lucky to finish 7-9. I would rather finish 3-13 at this point and trade that top 5 pick in 2019 for additional picks. Then target a new QB in 2020.

 

[Elle Clouds]

I say give him 3 more years and then we can have a 10 year (career) sample size to see that he is a great guy but not a QB that can win any meaningful games without considerable help from coaches and team talent. I use to want Tanny off the roster but I've warmed to him and wouldn't mind if he was a backup on this team with a new contract. This isn't a knee jerk reaction, I've always felt that we don't have the right QB under center. Maybe Andy Reid will come and consult with Gase.

 

[Dolphins81]

82 starts isn’t enough of sample size for you? Lmaoo

Lol, the Gasy and Tanny fans think that Tanny is still developing. Tanny will make for a good backup someday.

 

[mrbunglez]

They already have a developmental guy in Falk. Kid fits Gase’s system better than Tannehill with the short quick hits. He can have all year next year to see if he’s the guy. Then if he crashes and burns the 2020 draft is the ideal draft to pick up a top tier QB.

 

[Dolphins81]

I’m over Tannehill, the guy disappears in big situations. Also can’t carry this team on his shoulders, he needs everything around him 100% and that’s never going to happen.

100% agreed! And when is everything 100% in the NFL. Tanny is a backup at best. I doubt there is a team that would want Tanny over what they already have.

 

[Avigatorx]

The outrage felt by our loss to the Bengals is recognition that we could have and should have won. We won the first 40 minutes and lost the last 20 minutes. We lost based on turnovers, questionable penalties and injuries. We gave the Bengals new life and they capitalized.

I am not ready to make drastic change over this game. Several teams better than us with better QBs lost yesterday Winning requires success in all three phases. The defense is better this year when Jones is playing. The offense is struggling with replacement linemen and predictable playcalling.

I thought the OL played well yesterday until the Tunsil injury.

The penalty on TJ McDonald was bogus. TJ could not have known when he committed to tackle that the ball was high and not going to be caught. Avoiding contact is how New Orleans lost the playoff game to the Vikings.

Tannehill then wet the bed twice and we lost a game we could have won. Tannehill lost the game. Gase is ultimately responsible for the loss. We should have decent backups for all lineman.

Nobody expected to make the superbowl this year. Rams and Chiefs look unstoppable. We need to draft and develop a second QB that can take over. Tannehill will be let go after this year if he does not improve unless he rewrites his contract. If Tannehill fails, Gase will probably be let go.

Let's see what happens.

I agree with everything you said, except the title of the thread.

We have seen enough. They are both done.

 

[Dolphins81]

They already have a developmental guy in Falk. Kid fits Gase’s system better than Tannehill with the short quick hits. He can have all year next year to see if he’s the guy. Then if he crashes and burns the 2020 draft is the ideal draft to pick up a top tier QB.

Gase’s system is a big part of the problem.

 

[Good_Dylan]

Real NFL QB's don't have to "develop" , They are born with it and they bring it with them. Thats what so many on here miss in their QB assessment and they fall for it at every replacement put back there. If Chad Henne did prove you cannot force change a guy from a dud to a stud then nothing will.

 

[mwestberry]

I don't see the team rallying around Tannehill (as a leader)….I don't see the team believing Tannehill can put them on his back for a win....It's just an "eyeball test" for me ….just an opinion...I see the QB position as a center for leadership where the team has the faith that under all circumstances the QB is going to do something that turns the tables in a favorable direction...win or lose the QB can be counted on to show the team he is fighting to win regardless.....

I don't see that fight in Tannehill....I have supported him all along but truthfully have never seen the fire and determination to win....stats aside, I don't see him as a dynamic football player....not even a good game manager.....It's hard to believe we can win under adverse circumstances when the fire and passion from the team leader is nonexistent ….. eventually the players will feel that way too... no matter how hard they play they can't count on the QB to make plays that put them in a position to win.....

Maybe with a great O-Line and good talent at WR, TE and RB Tannehill can be a decent QB but without everything in his favor he is not the guy to make chicken salad out of chicken s***…. The QB needs to be that guy IMO

 

[finomenal]

82 starts isn’t enough of sample size for you? Lmaoo

Might as well make it an even 100 to be absolutely sure. He was playing with a bad OL for a lot of those games, so about half of those don't couldn't. We can't ever evaluate him properly without a great OL with no injuries.